# Anybody knows traffic law well? Pull over inquisition. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 27, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465 "2009-02-27T19:34:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/21 "2009-02-28T09:35:54Z")
> [@IsraelI & Lebanon](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/8): > > That’s cool and all but the first cars to get them in the area were Schenectady Parking Enforcement, who share storage space in my garage. I physically rode in one of the cars and used the software, it only checked registration against whenever the database was updated. ive been nabbed twice by it so far… none since i got rid of the scooby tho… (knock on wood.) ---
**Author:** ![lconrad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lconrad/32/6314_2.png) [@lconrad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lconrad)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/22 "2009-02-28T11:32:01Z")
any cop and run any plate for no reason at all…if you run a plate and it comes back suspended you can pull the car over…if the driver is suspended too…oh well sucks for him ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/23 "2009-02-28T11:41:41Z")
He had probable cause to pull the person over if the light was out based on a vehiclular infraction. Anything discovered after that would be allowed into court b/c of the probable cause. The fact that his suspended liscence was found **inadvertently** means that you really have no grounds to try to fight it. If the officer had pulled him over for no reason, knowing the person had an invalid liscence, you MAY have a slight case, but even then it would be very difficult. ---
**Author:** ![lconrad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lconrad/32/6314_2.png) [@lconrad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lconrad)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/24 "2009-02-28T13:21:41Z")
if an officer knows that a subject has a suspended license and see them operation a vehicle…he has every right to pull that vehicle over based on him having direct knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![crAppAchic0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crappachic0/32/6306_2.png) [@crAppAchic0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crAppAchic0)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/25 "2009-02-28T13:28:52Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/475): > > negative… the new plate readers check the validity of the drivers license… if the plate is registered to you even if the registration and insurance is all in working order, it pops up with a message on their screen… trust me… i sat on the side of the road for 45 minutes talking to the cop about it while i was waiting for the tow truck to come get my car. :headbang Second this one, I got it with my old legacy when my insurance was ‘unknowingly’ suspended. He had a car pulled over on the opposite side of the road on 146. I drove by in the opposite direction and he eventually pulled me over on the side of the on-ramp to I87 north. I thought it was just the huge crack across the windshield that he was pulling me over for. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/26 "2009-02-28T19:43:36Z")
> [@YAY BUSH!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yay-bush/14794/91): > > oh plus end of month quota, they will pull anyone over and look for something to ticket them for There is NO solid quota, worst thing they would have is the chief telling them they should do more, but there are no numbers involved. Back to the situation, he never got the ticket for the light, but he got two tickets for license. One for the lack of it, the other for the fact that he was driving while suspended. Also an inspection ticket. I’m not looking to fight it, I was just trying to narrow down the legal point of the technicality. The light was never an issue, I know it wasn’t and it still works fine. I’ve talked to an Albany Sheriff today, and he did agree that the fruit of the poisonous tree would apply even in a traffic violation, but fighting it and proving it would be a stretch. Albany Sheriffs have the plate readers too. Those things are fun, but overrated, they aren’t a super weapon and are quite annoying, most of them ride around with them off. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/27 "2009-02-28T20:00:29Z")
> [@where can i get a spike for my helmet...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-can-i-get-a-spike-for-my-helmet/14874/13): > > saratoga county sherriffs actually have plate readers now on top of the cars along side the lights so they dont “NEED” a valid excuse other than the fact your license came back on their monitor suspended albany, and schenectady county as well. im sure many cities in the area are beginning to use them as well… they are mounted on the trunks. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/28 "2009-02-28T20:43:21Z")
the saratoga county sherrifs are mounting them along side the lights to “blend in” so… they only have 2 or 3 vehicles that have them… i got nailed once by each one… sucks more than a $2 hooker. ---
**Author:** ![SXY\_TIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sxy_time/32/6293_2.png) [@SXY\_TIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SXY_TIME)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/29 "2009-02-28T23:46:32Z")
> [@seriously bored and insomniatized](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seriously-bored-and-insomniatized/14891/31): > > There is NO solid quota technically, but if they arent out giving tickets and shit then they would get the boot, there is an imaginary quota, if you will ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/30 "2009-03-01T05:07:28Z")
> [@FS: Greddy Profec B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-greddy-profec-b/14840/7): > > technically, but if they arent out giving tickets and shit then they would get the boot, there is an imaginary quota, if you will Imaginary quota is jumbo shrimp. The only reason quota would ever be an issue is if they were under a certain quota at the end of the month, which would means solid numbers were involved where they needed to pull over X cars but they only did Y and now they need to catch up to the difference. Without numbers the principle of a quota is useless because there is no determined goal to meet. I know cops and sheriffs that rarely give out tickets. Generally they pull anybody over for equipment violations (lights, inspection) and it just leads to bigger things as they pull those over (like in the situation with my friend), however their numbers are still extremely low and it doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![SXY\_TIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sxy_time/32/6293_2.png) [@SXY\_TIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SXY_TIME)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/31 "2009-03-01T07:24:55Z")
ehh maybe colonie cops just have nothing better to do ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/32 "2009-03-01T09:03:58Z")
> [@Bye bye Mitsubishi..](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bye-bye-mitsubishi/13709/63): > > **He had probable cause** to pull the person over if the light was out based on a vehiclular infraction. Anything discovered after that would be allowed into court b/c of the probable cause. The fact that his suspended liscence was found **inadvertently** means that you really have no grounds to try to fight it. If the officer had pulled him over for no reason, knowing the person had an invalid liscence, you MAY have a slight case, but even then it would be very difficult. Let me clear up this whole thread. NYS does not have a Probable Cause Clause. In NYS it is Reasonable Cause and a police officer can pull you over for any reason he feels is necc and check your identity and driving record. However he can not search your car or arrest you unless you have or gave him a reason to. In refrence to the OP, the police officer pulling him over irregardless of why or why not, was legal. He has the right to check your friends identity and driving record. Had your friend been legal, he would have been sent on his way. Since your friend was driving illegally, he is now facing the ramifcations. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/33 "2009-03-01T10:07:38Z")
> [@seriously bored and insomniatized](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/seriously-bored-and-insomniatized/14891/31): > > …Also an inspection ticket… Even if he did try to fight getting pulled over for the headlight which was out, the inspection is a completly valid reason to pull him over so his arguement is totally blown either way. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/34 "2009-03-01T11:01:06Z")
> [@what to do today...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-today/14897/6): > > Let me clear up this whole thread. > > NYS does not have a Probable Cause Clause. In NYS it is **Reasonable Belief** and a police officer can pull you over for any reason he feels is necc and check your identity and driving record. However he can not search your car or arrest you unless you have or gave him a reason to. > > In refrence to the OP, the police officer pulling him over irregardless of why or why not, was legal. He has the right to check your friends identity and driving record. Had your friend been legal, he would have been sent on his way. Since your friend was driving illegally, he is now facing the ramifcations. Fixed, its reasonable belief, and has to be deemed something that society would see as “reasonable”. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/35 "2009-03-02T06:15:39Z")
a cop can always say that it wasnt working when he was pulling you over. its your word against theirs in court ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/36 "2009-03-02T06:36:21Z")
> [@The Bugatti Veyron may no longer be the world's fastest car.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-bugatti-veyron-may-no-longer-be-the-worlds-fastest-car/14884/23): > > Fixed, its reasonable belief, and has to be deemed something that society would see as “reasonable”. Thanks :o) ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465/37 "2009-03-02T06:47:02Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8661/553): > > ehh maybe colonie cops just have nothing better to do mmmm, i dont think its that. they need more revenue. i see MANY many more cops out now and a hell of a lot more ppl pulled over. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-knows-traffic-law-well-pull-over-inquisition/242465.md?page=1)