# Anybody want to save money on their Utility Bills? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690 "2009-06-03T05:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/201 "2016-04-27T06:42:42Z")
[TABLE=“class: centered, width: 0”] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]MONTH/YEAR[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]_TOTAL BILL_ GAS SUPPLIED BY YOUR MARKETER[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]_TOTAL BILL_ GAS SUPPLIED BY NATIONAL FUEL[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]± DIFFERENCE[/TH] [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 04/15 79.04 81.52 -2.48 [/TR] 05/15 33.81 35.10 -1.29 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 06/15 33.92 34.75 -0.83 [/TR] 07/15 31.67 32.54 -0.87 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 08/15 24.92 25.58 -0.66 [/TR] 09/15 30.10 30.62 -0.52 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 10/15 41.55 41.61 -0.06 [/TR] 11/15 50.17 50.27 -0.10 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 12/15 79.41 76.57 2.84 [/TR] 01/16 60.29 56.21 4.08 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 02/16 83.49 77.93 5.56 [/TR] 04/16 56.58 57.59 -1.01 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] TOTAL 604.95 600.29 4.66 [/TR] [/TABLE] _Purchasing your gas supply from National Fuel for this period would have cost $4.66 less than from your Supplier._ ECA cost me a little more than National Fuel in the past year but not enough that I’m going to switch considering they’ve consistently been cheaper over all the prior years. ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/202 "2016-04-27T08:05:45Z")
> [@Mankthetank19](#): > > Still the same. They don’t have an online interface. I will take a picture of my next bill. Please do, appreciate it! Mine has not gone up much either YOY to change, but that $29 increase really happened since 2016 started. If this continues through the remainder of 2016 it would make me change. I just called EC of America and simply asked what was causing the increase, initial rude response was “just give me your account number and ill just put you back to NFG”. From what I can find out ECNY is still offering market rates and NFG is just undercutting market rates which in the long run will not last. ---
**Author:** ![Mankthetank19](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mankthetank19/32/5295_2.png) [@Mankthetank19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mankthetank19)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/203 "2016-04-27T09:07:47Z")
> [@Tbirdsc1](#): > > Please do, appreciate it! > > Mine has not gone up much either YOY to change, but that $29 increase really happened since 2016 started. If this continues through the remainder of 2016 it would make me change. I just called EC of America and simply asked what was causing the increase, initial rude response was “just give me your account number and ill just put you back to NFG”. > From what I can find out ECNY is still offering market rates and NFG is just undercutting market rates which in the long run will not last. Current rate is .2340 - just got off the phone with them. It is variable but it will always be below National Fuel prices ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/204 "2016-04-27T09:27:41Z")
I’m more curious how @Tbirdsc1 managed to use $158 in gas in March on a record warm winter. ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/205 "2016-04-27T10:55:52Z")
> [@Mankthetank19](#): > > Current rate is .2340 - just got off the phone with them. It is variable but it will always be below National Fuel prices That is actually a but higher than what the ECNY rate has been the past 5 months (FY16 rates on bottom of chart) > [@JayS](#): > > I’m more curious how @**[Tbirdsc1](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=1478)** managed to use $158 in gas in March on a record warm winter. Haha yes believe me when I got the bill I was in shock, until I saw “ESTIMATED” under the read type. We did actually put in a natural gas wall hanging garage heater in our 3.5 car garage so I knew in April the actual read (plus variance from estimate) would be up a little but its been a negligible increase at best. Pulling my Raptor into a 65 degree garage to work on it when its 20 outside, so worth it. Our avg monthly bill for the past year was 65.xx, I will not complain on heating costs when they are that low to heat 3600 sqft to a constant 71. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/206 "2016-04-27T11:05:41Z")
Yeah, their estimate system has had a hell of a time figuring out that I replaced a bunch of windows and swapped out my ancient furnace for a modern 95% efficient one. Every estimate this winter has been WAY over my actual usage when they take a reading the next month. It will balance out eventually I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/207 "2016-04-28T08:36:51Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Yeah, their estimate system has had a hell of a time figuring out that I replaced a bunch of windows and swapped out my ancient furnace for a modern 95% efficient one. Every estimate this winter has been WAY over my actual usage when they take a reading the next month. It will balance out eventually I’m sure. I have a couple vacant rentals that i’m keeping on 50 degrees. it was really cold and they occupied last winter. My actual bills are $35 and the estimates are $170 ish. Most annoying system ever. I even asked them to adjust the estimates and they refuse. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/208 "2016-04-28T10:17:34Z")
For me it’s not a big deal, I get a high bill one month then a super low bill the next month when they take a reading and have to adjust. It’s always every other bill where they estimate. ---
**Author:** ![Mankthetank19](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mankthetank19/32/5295_2.png) [@Mankthetank19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mankthetank19)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/209 "2017-04-04T08:40:50Z")
So I just got a letter from National Fuel Resources and my new agreement is month to month - Monthly NYMEX natural gas price + 0.059 per CCF ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/210 "2018-01-26T06:42:45Z")
Bump… not much for savings with CoOp in 2017. [TABLE=“class: centered, width: 0”] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]MONTH/YEAR[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]_TOTAL BILL_ GAS SUPPLIED BY YOUR MARKETER[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]_TOTAL BILL_ GAS SUPPLIED BY NATIONAL FUEL[/TH] [TH=“class: bottomborder”]± DIFFERENCE[/TH] [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 01/17 101.60 79.89 21.71 [/TR] 02/17 82.96 75.61 7.35 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 03/17 131.50 138.94 -7.44 [/TR] 04/17 19.33 21.71 -2.38 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 05/17 19.95 22.67 -2.72 [/TR] 06/17 19.24 21.63 -2.39 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 07/17 20.78 22.91 -2.13 [/TR] 08/17 31.85 35.42 -3.57 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 09/17 23.85 26.07 -2.22 [/TR] 10/17 45.56 47.10 -1.54 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] 11/17 49.76 51.64 -1.88 [/TR] 12/17 94.26 98.09 -3.83 [TR=“bgcolor: #E9F3F9”] Total 640.64 641.68 -1.04 [/TR] [/TABLE] _Purchasing your gas supply from National Fuel for this period would have cost $1.04 more than from your Supplier._ ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/211 "2021-10-14T13:30:06Z")
2021 bump Called and canceled my service with Energy Coop today. Paid $41 more last year with them than I would have just buying straight from National Fuel. They were only lower 1 month out of 12. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/7/0740b5087d3ad1af127507810b9404df39d96f8e.png) And before you go “how the hell did you spend $123.50 in July on natural gas!?”… The pool had a bad leak and we were constantly refilling it and then re-heating it. 😬 Thankfully the leak has been fixed. This is the site if you want to do a comparison: [https://acctsvcs.nationalfuelgas.com/HistRateCompUnauth.aspx](https://acctsvcs.nationalfuelgas.com/HistRateCompUnauth.aspx) To switch back you have to call Energy Coop and have them switch you back because National Fuel can’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/212 "2021-10-14T23:32:25Z")
I left them after I moved last year, saw the savings go away in my last year at our old house and knew it wouldn’t be worth renewing. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/213 "2021-10-18T11:39:54Z")
Isn’t Josh Allen selling something like this? I think I’ve seen him on billboards related to an energy supplier. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690.md?page=10)