# Anybody want to save money on their Utility Bills? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690 "2009-06-03T05:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/141 "2010-11-30T10:26:34Z")
> [@Ack](#): > > Just an FYI guys, **ECA is now taking enrollments for residential gas in NYSEG and RG&E territories.** ECA’s monthly rates for these programs are also listed on their website. > > [_RG&E Residential Savings_](http://ecny.org/gas/res_rge.html). This territory has shown savings between 10-20% for all of 2010. > > NYSEG has multiple territories, but most around here will be in the [_Lockport_](http://ecny.org/gas/res_nyseg_lockport.html) area. > > Here is a [_link_](http://ecny.org/gas/residential.html) to all the residential gas programs/savings: How does this all compare to ECNY? I switched to ECNY a couple of years ago because of this post. No you’re mentioning something different… _head explodes_ ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/142 "2010-11-30T10:42:53Z")
^ I believe the “Energy Cooperative” aquired more territory than just NY this past year…so now they are teh **E** nergy **C** ooperative of **A** merica, not just NY. So to you, it’s the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/143 "2010-11-30T10:55:44Z")
Just signed up, thanks for the bizzump! :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Ack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Ack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ack)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/144 "2011-01-03T12:21:31Z")
Below are the January 2011 savings figures for ECA: NFG Rate: $0.603466/Ccf ECA Rate: $0.573506/Ccf ECA Commodity Savings = 5.0% NFG is issuing another decent sized credit in the supply rates of $0.0529/Ccf, which will apply for all of 2011. This will probably keep ECA’s commodity savings under 10% for most of the year. The total savings that people will realize will be higher though do to the additional sales tax benefits. ECA will most likely be sending out annual natural gas savings reports to all of their members later this month or early next month. ---
**Author:** ![RobtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/51bf81/32.png) [@RobtC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobtC)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/145 "2011-01-04T10:29:31Z")
i’m very happy i made the switch. it’s nice to actually see a difference in heating bills, and i keep my house warmer this year too. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/146 "2011-01-04T14:01:41Z")
Can you explain what these credits are? Is it NFG overcharging, then issuing a credit for it down the road? > [@Ack](#): > > Below are the January 2011 savings figures for ECA: > > NFG Rate: $0.603466/Ccf > ECA Rate: $0.573506/Ccf > > ECA Commodity Savings = 5.0% > > NFG is issuing another decent sized credit in the supply rates of $0.0529/Ccf, which will apply for all of 2011. This will probably keep ECA’s commodity savings under 10% for most of the year. The total savings that people will realize will be higher though do to the additional sales tax benefits. ECA will most likely be sending out annual natural gas savings reports to all of their members later this month or early next month. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/147 "2011-01-04T18:29:55Z")
this may or may not be the same reason…but here was the explanation from the last credit by NFG: > [@Ack](#): > > The only reason there have been loses with ECNY has been due to a credit NFG has been passing thru to customers. It is due to an over-collection from the prior year and it equates to a credit of $0.13103/Ccf. This is a huge credit considering the actual market rates are only around $0.50-0.60. This credit will continue until they reset it after August 2010. > > Below is the exact definition of the credit per NFG: > > Adjustment of gas sold, pursuant to Interim Annual Surcharge > or Refund provision on General Information Leaf No. 81 of > P.S.C. No. 8 - Gas. Amount applicable during the period > February 1, 2010 through August 31, 2010 referable to gas > adjustment undercollection for the twelve months ending > August 31, 2010. (13.1030) ---
**Author:** ![Ack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Ack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ack)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/148 "2011-01-06T08:46:16Z")
> [@JustinH](#): > > Can you explain what these credits are? Is it NFG overcharging, then issuing a credit for it down the road? Same basic definition that Josh provided only with an update for the period. Here is the definition of the credit per NFG (5.2900 cents/Ccf): Adjustment of gas sold, pursuant to Annual Surcharge or Refund Provision on General Information Leaf Nos. 78 and 81 of P.S.C. No. 8 - Gas. Amount applicable during the period January 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011 referable to gas adjustment undercollection for the twelve months ended August 31, 2010. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/149 "2011-01-06T13:20:36Z")
So how many people here do this, and how many have actually saved money? It seems like a no-brainer, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be more popular then. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/150 "2011-01-17T13:30:06Z")
I just re-read through this thread, and I guess I’ll give it a shot. I didn’t realize so many NYSpeed members are doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Ack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Ack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ack)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/151 "2011-01-31T05:43:02Z")
Below are the February 2011 savings figures for ECA: NFG Rate: $0.635295/Ccf ECA Rate: $0.584395/Ccf ECA Commodity Savings = 8.0% ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/152 "2011-01-31T06:12:53Z")
> [@Ack](#): > > Below are the February 2011 savings figures for ECA: > > NFG Rate: $0.635295/Ccf > ECA Rate: $0.584395/Ccf > > ECA Commodity Savings = 8.0% Is this 8.0% savings after the NFG credit you mentioned, or has that not been issued yet? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/153 "2011-01-31T06:14:09Z")
8% for a really cold month is some real savings. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/154 "2011-01-31T06:22:07Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > 8% for a really cold month is some real savings. :tup: Totally agree, been on this program (both NFG and NYSEG) for over 2 years and have saved a decent amount of money. If you haven’t signed up…do it now. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/155 "2011-01-31T06:25:43Z")
> [@Tbirdsc1](#): > > Totally agree, been on this program (both NFG and NYSEG) for over 2 years and have saved a decent amount of money. > If you haven’t signed up…do it now. Yep, looking at page 1 I see I made the switch 6/09. The savings have been very consistent. I think a couple times it was over NFG but even then it was during the summer months when I’m using very little natural gas. ---
**Author:** ![Ack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Ack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ack)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/156 "2011-02-02T12:43:55Z")
> [@Tbirdsc1](#): > > Is this 8.0% savings after the NFG credit you mentioned, or has that not been issued yet? Yes, the NFG rate that we are comparing to includes the credit. These savings also do not include any sales tax related benefits on the utility bill. Your total savings will be higher. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/157 "2011-04-19T19:01:17Z")
Looks like this is still the way to go? I never did this in Tonawanda, but I think I’ll do it in the new house now. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/158 "2011-04-19T19:34:15Z")
I’m not sure how much of my drop is related to the natural gas price plunge and it took some time to catch up but this def makes a difference. Thanks to OP and those that convinced me to do it! 🙂 My balanced billing was $100 per month and is about $65 at this point. 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/159 "2011-04-19T19:58:31Z")
Bah. I still don’t have an account number for national grid. Haven’t gotten my first bill yet. Well my gas is all set anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@Ack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ack)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690/160 "2011-07-19T15:40:22Z")
Just an FYI, if you signed up for any of the residential natural gas programs (NFG, NYSEG, RG&E) with ECA, you should be getting a custom savings report mailed to you sometime this week. My account had 7.6% total savings for the last 12 months (NFG). This was $45 on a total spend of almost $542. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-want-to-save-money-on-their-utility-bills/68690.md?page=9)