# anyone need a 3.1 liter v6\*Delete this post\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Classifieds\ **Created:** [September 7, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788 "2008-09-07T14:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/21 "2008-09-16T12:47:00Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > ahem, > > as quoted from [V6Z24.com](http://V6Z24.com) > > What is the difference between the turbo 3.1 and the NA 3.1? > > 1. Only internal difference is the Crank. It is hardened, but still cast like the NA 3.1 > > 2. Deck height heigher to reduce compression ratio by .1 from 8.9 to 8.9(type-o on page) > > 3. Bigger Injectors > > 4. Upper intake (plenum) has hole for IAT, no hole for brake booster, and says “Turbo” on it > > 5. Rear Manifold is different > > no mention of different rods, or oil pump… only of the cranks… please post your sources. thank you no time to prove wrong…ahem owned cough cough ---
**Author:** ![Built\_Not\_Bought](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Built\_Not\_Bought](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Built_Not_Bought)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/22 "2008-09-16T13:20:03Z")
I’ve owned more gm v6’s then I can count on my hands and feet and none of them ever blew up on me… Ive seen em go for well over 200k and still pound the streets… But besides that Is anyone buying this engine Id like to get it off my truck… ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/23 "2008-09-16T15:14:04Z")
> [@addikted2wips](#): > > I’ve owned more gm v6’s then I can count on my hands and feet and none of them ever blew up on me… Ive seen em go for well over 200k and still pound the streets… But besides that Is anyone buying this engine Id like to get it off my truck… :crackup :crackup :crackup ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/24 "2008-09-16T17:20:58Z")
Unique rods: these forged versions are unique to the 1989-90 Turbo Grand Prix and 1990 Turbo STE only. Stock 3.1L rod part number is 10078995/12515767, “turbo” 3.1L rod part number is 10070113 Rod Specs: Unique construction: C-1037 heat treated steel forging, with SAE 1050 air quenched rod caps Weight full assembled: 1.33 lbs Length Center Line to Center Line: 5.70” Small end size: .905” Big end size: 2.474” Racing Specs per Chevy Power manual: 7,000 rpms possible Unique crank, started as a heavy duty casting number 981 as seen in the all-wheel drive Chevy Astro, but this one is unique to the 1989-1990 Turbo Grand Prix and Turbo STE, being worked on after starting as a 981 crank! Proof; stock 981 crank part number is 10146900, “turbo” 981 crank part number is 10110549. Crank Specs: Material: nodular cast iron Unique machining: Journals chamfered, with deep rolled fillets that provide residual compressive stresses for added durability Unique Treating: Ion Nitrided with a hardened depth of .02"-.03" raising surface hardness from 30-35 Rockwell C to 60 Rockwell C. Weight: 39.5 lbs Unique Crank dampener, stock 3.1L part #: 14091896, turbo dampener: 10131060 Oil Pump, unique to the 1989-90 Turbo Grand Prix and 1990 Turbo STE. Higher volume, cast iron body verses commonly used aluminum versions. Oil Pump Specs: Manufacturer (other than GM in this case): Mellings Material: Cast iron body Pump gear length: 1.203” Pump gear diameter: 1.504” Pickup: 5/8” feed tube Output: 25% greater than stock Jeff Middaugh, the first known TGP “tuner” worked for GM , [http://turbograndprix.com/Extensive%20Details%20and%20Differences.htm](http://turbograndprix.com/Extensive%20Details%20and%20Differences.htm) BTW mr GM,( Slowmarrow), its a 60 degreev6. owned? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/25 "2008-09-16T19:17:15Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > Unique rods: these forged versions are unique to the 1989-90 Turbo Grand Prix and 1990 Turbo STE only. Stock 3.1L rod part number is 10078995/12515767, “turbo” 3.1L rod part number is 10070113 > Rod Specs: > Unique construction: C-1037 heat treated steel forging, with SAE 1050 air quenched rod caps > Weight full assembled: 1.33 lbs > Length Center Line to Center Line: 5.70” > Small end size: .905” > Big end size: 2.474” > Racing Specs per Chevy Power manual: 7,000 rpms possible > > Unique crank, started as a heavy duty casting number 981 as seen in the all-wheel drive Chevy Astro, but this one is unique to the 1989-1990 Turbo Grand Prix and Turbo STE, being worked on after starting as a 981 crank! Proof; stock 981 crank part number is 10146900, “turbo” 981 crank part number is 10110549. > Crank Specs: > Material: nodular cast iron > Unique machining: Journals chamfered, with deep rolled fillets that provide residual compressive stresses for added durability > Unique Treating: Ion Nitrided with a hardened depth of .02"-.03" raising surface hardness from 30-35 Rockwell C to 60 Rockwell C. > Weight: 39.5 lbs > Unique Crank dampener, stock 3.1L part #: 14091896, turbo dampener: 10131060 > > Oil Pump, unique to the 1989-90 Turbo Grand Prix and 1990 Turbo STE. Higher volume, cast iron body verses commonly used aluminum versions. > Oil Pump Specs: > Manufacturer (other than GM in this case): Mellings > Material: Cast iron body > Pump gear length: 1.203” > Pump gear diameter: 1.504” > Pickup: 5/8” feed tube > Output: 25% greater than stock > > Jeff Middaugh, the first known TGP “tuner” worked for GM , > [http://turbograndprix.com/Extensive%20Details%20and%20Differences.htm](http://turbograndprix.com/Extensive%20Details%20and%20Differences.htm) > BTW mr GM,( Slowmarrow), its a 60 degreev6. owned? couple things wrong with this guy first no gm came wit forged rods from the factory,astro vans are a 4.3 liter v6 not a 3.1 lt diff crank and obviously diff numbers,all g/m oil pump,s besides lsx motors are cast iron not alum :crackup …now think about things g/ doesent even put forged rods in the vette or f/body,s why would they do it to a half assed forced inducted 3.1 :ponder but think what ya want your intake should also say turbo on it if it was a beefier 3.1 like ya say and it doesent so :stfu and melt the boat anchor down because no one prolly drives a car that the motor would power anyways its a dinosaur …but ya wont keep thinkin ya got a rare gem on your hands and keep it in fact ill buy it so i can claim to have a rare motor :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Built\_Not\_Bought](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Built\_Not\_Bought](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Built_Not_Bought)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/26 "2008-09-17T02:48:05Z")
> [@88slowmarro](#): > > couple things wrong with this guy first no gm came wit forged rods from the factory,astro vans are a 4.3 liter v6 not a 3.1 lt diff crank and obviously diff numbers,all g/m oil pump,s besides lsx motors are cast iron not alum :crackup …now think about things g/ doesent even put forged rods in the vette or f/body,s why would they do it to a half assed forced inducted 3.1 :ponder but think what ya want your intake should also say turbo on it if it was a beefier 3.1 like ya say and it doesent so :stfu and melt the boat anchor down because no one prolly drives a car that the motor would power anyways its a dinosaur …but ya wont keep thinkin ya got a rare gem on your hands and keep it in fact ill buy it so i can claim to have a rare motor :🙂 Well pretty much gm 3.1s are far from rare! and no 1 claimed it was a beefier 3.1! And if your not interested then take a hike! Im not looking for info regarding the motor. I know all I need to about them. and I still see plenty of beretta’s corsi grandprix so I dont know what world you live in… a response isnt necessary from you in this thread… Cuz If ya aint buyin I aint interested… ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/27 "2008-09-17T03:27:36Z")
WEAK. addikted i hope you figure something out for it to mclarenjunk… WEAK. that motor is weak, weak in every meaning of the word, slang included, and thats the bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/28 "2008-09-17T07:11:40Z")
whatever dude when the ls1s get emmbarresed im going to make a thread about how to take care of 518 internet shit talkers. Oh and i garantee im a better tuner and mechanic than BOTH you and im probably half your age. HAHA. Theres a difference between thinking you know whats going on and actually doing it. your not fuckign john lingenfelter. Your nobody , just someone with diharria projectiling out of your mouth… whos providing the next pile of feces? ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/29 "2008-09-17T07:14:17Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > whatever dude when the ls1s get emmbarresed im going to make a thread about how to take care of 518 internet shit talkers. Oh and i garantee im a better tuner and mechanic than BOTH you and im probably half your age. HAHA. Theres a difference between thinking you know whats going on and actually doing it. your not fuckign john lingenfelter. Your nobody , just someone with diharria projectiling out of your mouth… whos providing the next pile of feces? listen, if you dont post, the subject will die. Posting is only adding fuel to the fire. Point of story, This is a FORSALE SUBJECT, not about how gay the motor is. you have a shitty motor. DEAL with it. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/30 "2008-09-17T07:15:35Z")
you want to get embarrest my the GP too? shut it. I was the only hope this guy had for selling this motor/ you guys fucked him. not me. ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/31 "2008-09-17T07:16:11Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > you want to get embarrest my the GP too? shut it. I was the only hope this guy had for selling this motor/ you guys fucked him. not me. :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup :crackup your a tool SHUT UP ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/32 "2008-09-17T07:18:59Z")
dude your car runs 16s. ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/33 "2008-09-17T07:20:35Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > dude your car runs 16s. DUDE i dont care :lol its a car. you gunna get all FAST AND FURIOUS on me? ill run you for the fun, name the place an time. and im there. unless…your too much of a man with all that turbo. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/34 "2008-09-17T07:26:17Z")
comon dude lol, you cant take the ol 89 gp? btw turbos have notihng to do with being a man… haha or do they… ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/35 "2008-09-17T07:27:13Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > comon dude lol, you cant take the ol 89 gp? btw turbos have notihng to do with being a man… haha or do they… your an idoit. i called you out son. name the place and time!!!11 (:crackup) ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/36 "2008-09-17T07:35:16Z")
uhhh ohhhhh rice rocket comin through… dude your car better be turbo or im gonna be pissed. wheres good for you? ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/37 "2008-09-17T07:36:04Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > uhhh ohhhhh rice rocket comin through… dude your car better be turbo or im gonna be pissed. wheres good for you? 2.4L of KA24de POWA!!! ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/38 "2008-09-17T07:38:03Z")
all 150 hp? thanks for brightening up my day… BRB in 5 minutes im having a smoke. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/39 "2008-09-17T07:45:59Z")
i take that back, all i had to do was walk outside… tell you wat, forget the shit talkin, ill round everyone up at once and well go on a cruise. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788/40 "2008-09-17T12:10:00Z")
> [@MclarenGP](#): > > whatever dude when the ls1s get emmbarresed im going to make a thread about how to take care of 518 internet shit talkers. Oh and i garantee im a better tuner and mechanic than BOTH you and im probably half your age. HAHA. Theres a difference between thinking you know whats going on and actually doing it. your not fuckign john lingenfelter. Your nobody , just someone with diharria projectiling out of your mouth… whos providing the next pile of feces? hahahahahahaha ok fuckstik ase tech and nysi inspector for 14 yrs but you the man :🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-need-a-3-1-liter-v6-delete-this-post/238788.md?page=3)