# Anyone own or know owners of smart cars? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 5, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915 "2008-05-05T07:59:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/41 "2008-05-05T14:53:08Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > what… I’m glad I still have joe blocked… that’s some stupid logic. > > automatics suck in low powered cars because they end up hunting for gears all the time and also make even less power. (see all lower power european cars). Um, what? Manual transmissions deliver better fuel economy because they are lighter and provide less drive train loss. That is why you see manual transmissions in lower power european cars? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/42 "2008-05-05T14:55:11Z")
the bottom line is that they do great when they hit things, not so well when hit by things (aka SUV). because of they way a frame works, an SUV would have done worse in a head on 70mph accident with a wall. but the overall reality is more accidents are not head on into something like a concrete barrier that won’t move. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/43 "2008-05-05T14:58:00Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Um, what? > > Manual transmissions deliver better fuel economy because they are lighter and provide less drive train loss. That is why you see manual transmissions in lower power european cars? fuel economy is just one factor… cost, and the fact that automatics are annoying in low power cars are among others. I remember growing up in London, that if somebody had an automatic car it meant they were probably pretty poor at driving and needed one. you really going to tell me you haven’t noticed low power automatic cars hunt all over trying to find a gear when all you wanted to do was accelerate a little bit more on the highway. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/44 "2008-05-05T16:02:38Z")
> [@walter](#): > > God, you’re such a dumbass. Ever hear of as-purchased configuration statistics? Neither have I, I just made it up, the point is that the VAST MAJORITY of cars sold in the NA market are 6 cylinder auto mustangs despite how much everyone on this site would prefer them to be 1600HP supercars. > > :fail: :word: And in regards to theblue, he wont read this unless someone quotes it, but i’ve driven low power automatics. Not a thrilling experience, but a hell of a lot better than driving a low power manual in a traffic-y commute. If i’m going to maneuver a clutch, I want it to be an enjoyable experience. There’s nothing fun about shifting a double-digit horsepower car. It’s a chore. ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/45 "2008-05-05T16:08:30Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Just because you could open a door, doesn’t mean you would have lived. Glad you have a firm understanding of the dynamics involved in an auto crash and the silly idea behind crumple zones. I never said that, tho I do know the dynamics of an accident, I raced circle track for years. ITS crumble zones are stupid I agree, But the smart car faired pretty well considering its size. Driving anycar into a wall at 70mph, you probably wont live, unless its a fully caged car with an approved racing restraint system and a helmet. Ive wrecked at well over 70mph before on the circle track. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/46 "2008-05-05T16:13:31Z")
> [@Just Karter](#): > > Crumble zones are stupid I agree, But the smart car faired pretty well considering its size. > . fucking:picard: ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/47 "2008-05-05T16:14:01Z")
> [@Just Karter](#): > > Crumble zones are stupid I agree, W T F ? ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/48 "2008-05-05T16:19:18Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > W > > T > > F > > ? I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT’S! :fail: are fail boat tickets still available? > [@JayS](#): > > All that math and I forgot all about that. :lol: > > You’ll never make up the purchase cost of this stupid car. Buying a car just to save gas is like the mechanical version of corn ethanol. You’re always going to put more in than you get out. It might look good to stupid greenies and political types, but educated people are going to laugh at your stupidity behind your back. Or maybe in your face. Revise that to say buying a new car for gas savings. If someone was to buy a crx HF for 1000 - 1500$ they could enjoy 50mpg on 87. I wouldnt mind it only costing $800 in gas to drive 10,000 miles. It would buy itself several times over. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/49 "2008-05-05T17:27:22Z")
That’s the way the cookie crumples? ---
**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/50 "2008-05-05T17:37:43Z")
If I was going to get a small low-power car, say a stock older Civic, I wouldn’t even consider an auto unless it was dirt cheap, they usually suck in those applications. Unless you commute in heavy traffic every day, which is not the norm in Buffalo, it’s not a pain to own a manual in those cars. It makes small gutless cars somewhat fun to drive. That said, I wouldn’t want a manual transmission in a Cadillac. ---
**Author:** ![fbrendan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fbrendan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fbrendan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/51 "2008-05-05T17:39:43Z")
No CA version, no care. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/52 "2008-05-05T17:57:49Z")
> [@nelstoys](#): > > My duramax gets 32-35 mpg higway which is great, only problem is it cost me 135 dollars to fill up 2 weeks ago. Drove to pa and back for an atv trip, 219 miles and less then 1/4 tank! Great on Fuel! Mabe its cost effective to drive it, I dont like to drive it, its my plow/tow truck. I only plow with it and tow my trailers. Now im not plowing with it anymore I guess I should just drive it. I only have 23,000 miles on her so far, since new. Jesus, no it does not, i’m not even trying to be a dick, but my dad had a duramax with the allison 6spd and doing 72 with a tail wind it would get hand calculated 20 mpg. NO truck, will get 32-35 mpg. ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/53 "2008-05-05T19:47:11Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > Jesus, no it does not, i’m not even trying to be a dick, but my dad had a duramax with the allison 6spd and doing 72 with a tail wind it would get hand calculated 20 mpg. > > NO truck, will get 32-35 mpg. Bully dog, k&n magnaflow even the dam trans kit. Trust me the trucks awsome on fuel. Got an atv? Come with me next time i go to PA to see for yourself. I made it back from washington Dc pulling my 68 camaro on a heavy ass u-haul trailer and still had 1/4 left. Never filled it once on the way back. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/bluebubble2k1/PA250044.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/2/b2ba39d5fa74dc9d7ec772007f8b151d00247682.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/54 "2008-05-05T19:53:56Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > stop making sense to this guy… remember he has more $ then everybody… every post he talks about what cars he has/is going to buy… so dont question him! ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/bluebubble2k1/Picture105.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/1/f13db3bf0694c28139a075748845ff52ca8a4677.jpeg) Here that was my fleet in 2005. Can also see my duramax and my daily 2001 alero with adr 18’s on it. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/55 "2008-05-05T19:57:17Z")
is that hand calculated? The tuners fool the truck with how much fuel it’s actually using, and the computer will read really high MPG ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/56 "2008-05-05T20:04:07Z")
Done on paper, this truck gets great mpg, noone belives me including my friend who went with me last week. Now he does. ---
**Author:** ![Denton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Denton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Denton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/57 "2008-05-05T20:14:17Z")
I’ll sell you my Fit for $13k. Paddle shift 5 speed. Triple digit hp. Same mileage. Fewer people laughing at you. They still laugh. But there’s less of 'em. ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/58 "2008-05-05T20:25:28Z")
> [@Denton](#): > > I’ll sell you my Fit for $13k. > Paddle shift 5 speed. Triple digit hp. Same mileage. > Fewer people laughing at you. > They still laugh. > But there’s less of 'em. Hmm, i dont understand why people laghf, everyone looked at me when i drove around in the bug? Why its good on gas and a fun little car. I was having fun at least. I enjoy everything. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/59 "2008-05-05T20:27:34Z")
I think Honda Fit is a good idea for you. the 2009 Fit looks bad-ass… ---
**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915/60 "2008-05-05T20:30:25Z")
you should invest in a TDI of some sort, especially considering the new generations coming out in a few months… 50-60mpg and biodiesel capable if you put in the time [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-own-or-know-owners-of-smart-cars/47915.md?page=4)