# anyone paying attention to the economy going down the fucking shitter? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 23, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987 "2008-01-23T06:11:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/101 "2008-01-25T09:22:44Z")
> [@Commercial parody.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commercial-parody/34554/3): > > Socialized medicine is collapsing in Canada and Europe if you’d care to do some research you would see this is true. > > **When did I say that Canadian or European free health insurance is the answer? All I said was that it should be as it is now, both private and fed regulated/controlled? If you are going to start comparing things, please don’t compare a 33mil populous of Ca vs. a 300+mil populous of USA. Both being very different government systems.** > > Also…2 very big countries! > one where they kill children to control the population and one where the average adult male drinks nearly 2 liters of vodka per day…those are some good examples! > > **How do you know anything about Russia and what people do there? I am no expert, but I promise I know more then you do. I was just there last month, were you?? I am not comparing their economies or their social constructs to ours. You specifically stated that fascism and communism only work in a small group. I proved you wrong because these are 2 of the biggest countries land and populous wise!** > > And even if that system did work, it doesn’t matter because we have a Constitution, and this Republic is not set up that way, so love Socialism all you want, but don’t lie to people and tell them that’s the way this country was designed. > > **I don’t love socialism or communism. I think you are just frustrated or you just don’t understand how a discussion works because you are constantly jumping from one topic to another. I am not attacking you, I thought we were just in discussion?** ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/102 "2008-01-25T09:31:25Z")
Your basis for “proving me wrong” is…“China and Russia are leaning socialist…Two very big countries!” We’re leaning that way too, that doesn’t mean it’s good. You said your friend can’t afford insurance, so we should foot the bill for him…through socialized medicine. I’m sure you saw all the nice tourist areas of Russia, it’s a great country, but they have their problems too, ever hear of Chernobyl? Talk about changing subjects, you use a different example and a different source to prove any one of your haphazard, “nothing in America works” opinions. I use one, the Constitution, and it does not authorize Federal medicine. The only reason I’m frustrated is because so many people like you, drink the public education Kool-Aid and think they know everything. You’ve all studied world cultures and economic theories, but you haven’t read the Constitution of your own country. /rant. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/103 "2008-01-25T11:10:13Z")
> [@Dezod in Buffalo....Some goodies here and ready!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dezod-in-buffalo-some-goodies-here-and-ready/33561/12): > > Your basis for “proving me wrong” is…“China and Russia are leaning socialist…Two very big countries!” > > We’re leaning that way too, that doesn’t mean it’s good. > > **We aren’t leaning that way. We don’t have a dictator. Putin elected himself as Prime Minister and elected his long time KGB buddy as the President. That’s much different then what we have here. Please don’t comment on things you absolutely know nothing about, or read up about it. I was there when they were having their ‘elections’.** > > You said your friend can’t afford insurance, so we should foot the bill for him…through socialized medicine. > > **I think if you are working and your job doesn’t pay for health insurance that there should be some kind of aid for this person. Please go read it again.** > > I’m sure you saw all the nice tourist areas of Russia, it’s a great country, but they have their problems too, ever hear of Chernobyl? > > **Dude, I was born and raised there. I’ve seen much more with my eyes then you can imagine, stop rambling stupid crap already. Chernobyl isn’t in fucking Russia! It’s in the Ukraine!!! Ignorant American’s like yourself is what embarasses this country to the rest of the world!** > > Talk about changing subjects, you use a different example and a different source to prove any one of your haphazard, “nothing in America works” opinions. > > **The source is a place to obtain relevant factual information, who cares where it comes from? Since you are part of the “REVOLUTION” you are also on the ‘nothing works in American’ propaganda, so welcome to the club! I don’t think that nothing works, I started reading this babble because I was interested in the different candidates and why you both were so gung hoe about R. Paul.** > > I use one, the Constitution, and it does not authorize Federal medicine. The only reason I’m frustrated is because so many people like you, drink the public education Kool-Aid and think they know everything. You’ve all studied world cultures and economic theories, but you haven’t read the Constitution of your own country. > > **I have read parts of the constitution. The average person hasn’t read all of it or retained 90% of it, including our current president! I am reading over to see what these candidates stand for. I never said the Fed should take care of the HealthCare system. Since the first post, I have been talking about using both private and fed, I am not sure how many times I need to repeat this. Are you in school and a political science major? Is this why all this hate?** > > /rant. Now that you posted that you are sick, I think you have a valid excuse :greddy2: ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/104 "2008-01-25T11:10:21Z")
America is the greation nation on Planet Earth. Okay, feel good horseshit out of the way: I think that history has shown that encouraging saving does not sucessfully resolve economic downturns. Rather, encouraging spending is key- even if this spending is done by the government. Economies are not stale- the “bust/boom cycle” is real, and government economic policies need to be flexible enough to respond to it. Encouraging saving during times of depression/recession is foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/105 "2008-01-25T11:24:31Z")
> [@pro's and con's... turbo charging vs supercharging](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-and-cons-turbo-charging-vs-supercharging/34561/21): > > America is the greation nation on Planet Earth. [/QUOTE] no, it isn’t. Not even fucking close. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/106 "2008-01-25T11:26:01Z")
no, it isn’t. Not even fucking close. 🤣[/quote] we have our problems, but yes, it is the best thing going. what would be your pick, Darkstar? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/107 "2008-01-25T11:29:36Z")
> [@pro's and con's... turbo charging vs supercharging](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-and-cons-turbo-charging-vs-supercharging/34561/23): > > no, it isn’t. Not even fucking close. 🤣 we have our problems, but yes, it is the best thing going. what would be your pick, Darkstar?[/QUOTE] saying “America is the best country on earth” is like giving your mom a coffee mug that says “Best Mother Ever”. I’ve only ever been to the US, Canada, and Jamaica. Therefore, I don’t presume to know what the “best country in the world” is. It certainly isn’t the most free. It certainly isnt the best economically. Our literacy rate is pathetic compared to most industrialized nations, our murder rate as well. Our technology and industrial sector pretty much sucks anymore… ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/108 "2008-01-25T11:33:17Z")
> [@FS: d16 supercharger \*\*\*now w/pics\*\*\*sold\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-d16-supercharger-now-w-pics-sold/33592/39): > > saying “America is the best country on earth” is like giving your mom a coffee mug that says “Best Mother Ever”. > > I’ve only ever been to the US, Canada, and Jamaica. Therefore, I don’t presume to know what the “best country in the world” is. It certainly isn’t the most free. It certainly isnt the best economically. Our literacy rate is pathetic compared to most industrialized nations, our murder rate as well. Our technology and industrial sector pretty much sucks anymore… so in reality, you have no fucking clue, you just like to bash the US??? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/109 "2008-01-25T11:35:39Z")
> [@Read any good books lately?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/read-any-good-books-lately/30386/44): > > so in reality, you have no fucking clue, you just like to bash the US??? No, I just dont have that blind nationalism that makes me say “our government fucking sucks, our economy is turning to shit, etc” out of one side of my mouth and then “OMG America is the best country EVAR!” out of the other side. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/110 "2008-01-25T11:39:46Z")
> [@FS: Authentic Donte Whitner Throwback jersey size 50 (Large)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-authentic-donte-whitner-throwback-jersey-size-50-large/34563/7): > > No, I just dont have that blind nationalism that makes me say “our government fucking sucks, our economy is turning to shit, etc” out of one side of my mouth and then “OMG America is the best country EVAR!” out of the other side. I don’t like the way our country is run right now and think a lot of things could be a lot better, but I have seen/heard other countries and how fucked up they are. Trust me, americans have it pretty damn good, even with the current shit going on with the gov. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/111 "2008-01-25T11:42:26Z")
> [@pro's and con's... turbo charging vs supercharging](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-and-cons-turbo-charging-vs-supercharging/34561/24): > > I don’t like the way our country is run right now and think a lot of things could be a lot better, but I have seen/heard other countries and how fucked up they are. Trust me, americans have it pretty damn good, even with the current shit going on with the gov. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/112 "2008-01-25T11:44:48Z")
> [@pro's and con's... turbo charging vs supercharging](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-and-cons-turbo-charging-vs-supercharging/34561/24): > > I don’t like the way our country is run right now and think a lot of things could be a lot better, but I have seen/heard other countries and how fucked up they are. Trust me, americans have it pretty damn good, even with the current shit going on with the gov. We do have it good. But just because there are other countries that are more fucked up than we are doesn’t mean we’re the best country in the world. If anything, the fact that we’ve managed to FUCK UP the richest, most powerful country in the world says a lot about us… ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/113 "2008-01-25T11:46:18Z")
> [@WTB: 1G Eclipse Turbo Head](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-1g-eclipse-turbo-head/34438/4): > > We do have it good. But just because there are other countries that are more fucked up than we are doesn’t mean we’re the best country in the world. If anything, the fact that we’ve managed to FUCK UP the richest, most powerful country in the world says a lot about us… and even though it’s fucked up, it’s still better than all the rest. What does that say for us and the rest of the world? Do some traveling, then come back to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/114 "2008-01-25T11:49:44Z")
> [@77rednecktruck"](#): > > and even though it’s fucked up, it’s still better than all the rest. What does that say for us and the rest of the world? > > Do some traveling, then come back to the thread. ignorance is bliss. Have fun with it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/115 "2008-01-25T12:33:12Z")
> [@WTB: 1G Eclipse Turbo Head](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-1g-eclipse-turbo-head/34438/4): > > We do have it good. But just because there are other countries that are more fucked up than we are doesn’t mean we’re the best country in the world. If anything, the fact that we’ve managed to FUCK UP the richest, most powerful country in the world says a lot about us… No, it says a lot about our current administration. This is the problem with other countries, they think that we all hand picked Bush as president and believe that everything he is doing is right. While obviously that’s not the case. Initial reaction when I was in Europe a month ago was exactly this. After you sit and talk to people though, they realize that they can’t just blame the US citizens for 1 man’s actions. Then they ask how did he get elected and that becomes a lengthy conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/116 "2008-01-25T12:40:33Z")
> [@pro's and con's... turbo charging vs supercharging](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-and-cons-turbo-charging-vs-supercharging/34561/27): > > No, it says a lot about our current administration. This is the problem with other countries, they think that we all hand picked Bush as president and believe that everything he is doing is right. While obviously that’s not the case. Initial reaction when I was in Europe a month ago was exactly this. After you sit and talk to people though, they realize that they can’t just blame the US citizens for 1 man’s actions. Then they ask how did he get elected and that becomes a lengthy conversation. I’d give that argument some credence, if we didn’t RE-ELECT HIM! fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on us. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/117 "2008-01-25T13:03:10Z")
You’re crazy. We have more civil liberties than any other industrialized nation. We enjoy an excellent standard of living. We are not plauged by civil war and military violence. We enjoy comfort and prosperity that 90% of Earth’s population can’t even being to comprehend. Even the poorest Americans are in better conditions than the AVERAGE human being worldwide. America IS the best thing going, period, and I’ll be more than happy to sing it’s praises. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/118 "2008-01-25T13:06:56Z")
> [@Darkstar"](#): > > I’d give that argument some credence, if we didn’t RE-ELECT HIM! fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on us. We CAN blame a lot of factors, but at the end the runner up surrendered. The current administration hasn’t done a ton of good for the American people and I think these elections will be even more influential. Time will tell! ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/119 "2008-01-25T13:30:03Z")
> [@Swarzkopf"](#): > > You’re crazy. We have more civil liberties than any other industrialized nation. We enjoy an excellent standard of living. We are not plauged by civil war and military violence. We enjoy comfort and prosperity that 90% of Earth’s population can’t even being to comprehend. Even the poorest Americans are in better conditions than the AVERAGE human being worldwide. > > America IS the best thing going, period, and I’ll be more than happy to sing it’s praises. There are plenty of other nations that are more free than the United States. There are plenty that have stronger economies, and plenty that live better qualities of life. :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987/120 "2008-01-25T13:43:45Z")
> There are plenty of other nations that are more free than the United States. Name one? You can’t own a hangun in Britain. You also will be persecuted and incarcerated if you choose to defend your life or your families lives against violent criminals. You can’t disseminate political opinions that aren’t approved by the national government in France or Germany- doing so will result in incarceration. In Canada most of your income is taken by the government (and you can’t own a handgun here either). In Italy, the economy is constantly cripped because the government’s socialist control of society and utter empowerment of labor unions results in total stagnation. You can’t own a gun there either. …and these are the “free” nations…I’ve yet to comment on the Russian Federation, China, and the other not-so-free industrialized countries. > There are plenty that have stronger economies, and plenty that live better qualities of life. There are a small, small handful of countries that enjoy higher standards of living. I personally will not trade freedom for 2 extra years added to the end stage of my life. “Stronger economy” is a statement that needs defined; clearly, the American economy is the most dominant and influential national economy on a global scale, so using that as our criteria, I can’t identify a nation whose economy is stronger. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-paying-attention-to-the-economy-going-down-the-fucking-shitter/194987.md?page=7)