# anyone ride dirtbikes on ice?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [December 5, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587 "2008-12-05T05:46:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/1 "2008-12-05T05:46:40Z")
I was thinkin about studding my tires and taking my bike up to my friend’s lakehouse and doing some ice riding, anyone else here done that before?
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### Author:  [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/2 "2008-12-05T10:04:10Z")
i know smokinss does it on his 4wheeler up on lake george
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/3 "2008-12-05T14:35:25Z")
> [@mcflurry](#):
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> i know smokinss does it on his 4wheeler up on lake george
yah…I have a extra studded set of wheels/tires for the winter…practice around on round lake and race on lake george if the lake is frozen…im on a quad tho.
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### Author:  [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/4 "2008-12-05T15:11:38Z")
sweet deal, wanna go this winter when it freezes over?
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/5 "2008-12-05T17:01:44Z")
> [@IROC](#):
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> sweet deal, wanna go this winter when it freezes over?
yah…lake george is always the last to freeze over
round lake is usually the first tho
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### Author:  [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/6 "2008-12-05T17:04:27Z")
snyders pond is usuaully one of the first also. i should be all studded in a week or 2.
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### Author:  [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/7 "2008-12-06T06:34:11Z")
my friend’s got a cabin up on Canada lake we could go to also.
What would you suggest for studding?
I came across these when searching
[http://www.magicracing.com/Kold-Kutter-Ice-Racing-Screws--250-pack\_p\_68-1076.html](http://www.magicracing.com/Kold-Kutter-Ice-Racing-Screws--250-pack_p_68-1076.html)
[http://www.mfgsupply.com/ATVStuds.html](http://www.mfgsupply.com/ATVStuds.html)
[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Holiday-Ice-Racing-Tire-Screws-1-2-ATV-Dirt-Bike-1000\_W0QQitemZ280286736448QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Holiday-Ice-Racing-Tire-Screws-1-2-ATV-Dirt-Bike-1000_W0QQitemZ280286736448QQcmdZViewItem)
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### Author:  [@RSeX119](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RSeX119)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/8 "2008-12-06T08:47:50Z")
When I had my quad a lot of bikes went over in this cove on the mohawk river, they had a little circle track plowed.
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/9 "2008-12-06T09:22:03Z")
> [@Type-S](#):
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> When I had my quad a lot of bikes went over in this cove on the mohawk river, they had a little circle track plowed.
its called Wagers pond…its a popular place for ice riders.
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/10 "2008-12-06T09:25:18Z")
> [@Type-S](#):
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> When I had my quad a lot of bikes went over in this cove on the mohawk river, they had a little circle track plowed.
The place we went with the sleds last year?
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### Author:  [@RSeX119](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RSeX119)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2008, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/11 "2008-12-06T23:09:46Z")
yup
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### Author:  [@QuickLT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuickLT1)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/12 "2008-12-07T19:21:31Z")
I got a group of friends that ice race. I will post when and where when it comes time.
Ill have my POS out there this year
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/13 "2008-12-07T20:40:37Z")
> [@QuickLT1](#):
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> I got a group of friends that ice race. I will post when and where when it comes time.
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> Ill have my POS out there this year
yah dude let me know.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/14 "2008-12-08T10:51:15Z")
My YFZ450 with 110 1.5" carbides and plastic backers… fronts were koldkutters. This thing hooked up and floated great on packed snow. Ice was good, but it only had like 6 sharp edges contacting at a time. SOOOO. the TurfTamer tires with 500 Koldkutters PER tire… they hooked up on ice better than normal tires on asphalt!
I really want to stud the KTM625 up with koldkutters, since one tire has a hole in it and the other is just about shot anyways. The only thing I am worried about is holding air… I think the shortest kold kutters will puncture the tire and when they pull out leak. BTW, the 110 snowmobile studs I had above, still have the origional 8PSI I had in them 5 years ago!!! 3 tubes of RTV FTW!
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/15 "2008-12-08T11:10:39Z")
> [@kkkustom](#):
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> My YFZ450 with 110 1.5" carbides and plastic backers… fronts were koldkutters. This thing hooked up and floated great on packed snow. Ice was good, but it only had like 6 sharp edges contacting at a time. SOOOO. the TurfTamer tires with 500 Koldkutters PER tire… they hooked up on ice better than normal tires on asphalt!
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> I really want to stud the KTM625 up with koldkutters, since one tire has a hole in it and the other is just about shot anyways. The only thing I am worried about is holding air… I think the shortest kold kutters will puncture the tire and when they pull out leak. BTW, the 110 snowmobile studs I had above, still have the origional 8PSI I had in them 5 years ago!!! 3 tubes of RTV FTW!
sick./…your quad looks familier…do you locally ride on the ice? how do you like your Elka’s?
I have turd tammers with 500 studs in each tire…didnt hook that well last year but they are all wicked dull…need to get new ones.
I kept blowing my tire off the rim last year on the ice as well…pain in the ass
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### Author:  [@JRubino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JRubino)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/16 "2008-12-08T12:09:25Z")
I used to stud my tires on my 50 and screw around on ponds with it.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/17 "2008-12-09T08:32:08Z")
I raced Royal MT alot with it, and Twister Valley for practice. The Elkas were great shocks. 18.5" quad rate compression/rebound adj long travel, valved for 150lb rider (I am 145lb or so with gear) and set up for XC. I started with JB Racing +2/2 arms. They were OK, but were really heavy and handeling felt slow and had a hard time dialing them in all the time. I switched them out for Houser +2 long travels. MUCH better. Abit lighter, caster adjustable and handled alot better. I also ran the stock rear shock with axis dual rate spring and Elka XC link.
If I get a quad again, I will be fucked. Reason being, once you ride a fully suspended long travel machine, you can not go back. My buddy has a YFZ with TCS rebuilt stockers and stock arms, and it is no where near the ride I got. It is so much safer too. You watch any stock YFZ, TRX450, even the Suzuki 450 go through woops, breaking bumps, landing short/long on jumps… it is very hard to hang on and the machine is all over the place and working so hard. I go through the same thing on my quad, and it is like butter. total night and day difference. 2 years ago at twister on the big track, there is a double, double single section… I went for a double tripple and cased the shit out of the last one on, befor I had the suspension. top of 3rd gear… ass end rebounded and I endoed the landing right off the rev limiter tring to bring it back down… somehow kept from slaming my self over the bars. After the suspension, figured I would try it again, again, cased it just as hard. Rear end compressed, held and I just rode on all 4 tires down the landing and set my self up for the corner, the flag guy stopped me later and said I was the only quad tring that 2x/3x section.
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/18 "2008-12-09T21:20:54Z")
> [@kkkustom](#):
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> I raced Royal MT alot with it, and Twister Valley for practice. The Elkas were great shocks. 18.5" quad rate compression/rebound adj long travel, valved for 150lb rider (I am 145lb or so with gear) and set up for XC. I started with JB Racing +2/2 arms. They were OK, but were really heavy and handeling felt slow and had a hard time dialing them in all the time. I switched them out for Houser +2 long travels. MUCH better. Abit lighter, caster adjustable and handled alot better. I also ran the stock rear shock with axis dual rate spring and Elka XC link.
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> If I get a quad again, I will be fucked. Reason being, once you ride a fully suspended long travel machine, you can not go back. My buddy has a YFZ with TCS rebuilt stockers and stock arms, and it is no where near the ride I got. It is so much safer too. You watch any stock YFZ, TRX450, even the Suzuki 450 go through woops, breaking bumps, landing short/long on jumps… it is very hard to hang on and the machine is all over the place and working so hard. I go through the same thing on my quad, and it is like butter. total night and day difference. 2 years ago at twister on the big track, there is a double, double single section… I went for a double tripple and cased the shit out of the last one on, befor I had the suspension. top of 3rd gear… ass end rebounded and I endoed the landing right off the rev limiter tring to bring it back down… somehow kept from slaming my self over the bars. After the suspension, figured I would try it again, again, cased it just as hard. Rear end compressed, held and I just rode on all 4 tires down the landing and set my self up for the corner, the flag guy stopped me later and said I was the only quad tring that 2x/3x section.
did you race royal a few summers ago? I was on a Blue 250r (#11) in the Am class. Won 3rd over all in the Am class for the year…Then at Hickory hill I broke my wrist off the 90 foot double and havent really been back to royal since.
I know what you mean about long travel. I have the Roll design Lobo 2 long travel a-arms on my quad (+3) with custom axis long travel tripple rate shocks…also have a long travel PEP ZPS rear shock and roll design long travel rear swingarm. Its BY FAR the best handling quad I have EVER ridden/owned.
I never raced at twister valley but I went to watch my cousin and buddy race…sick track. I would love to get out there for practice.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/19 "2009-01-02T05:32:05Z")
Yeah I think I remember see in that quad at the track. I am torn between getting another YFZ and doing suspension or getting another dirtbike. I like the quad becasue there are not alot on the track and I like riding something different. I like the challange of a quad in a GNCC track/trail. With mud, rocks, rutts… But I like the dirtbike on fast smooth trails, where you can flick it around and what not. I cant ride a dirtbike in sand very well yet. I love hill climbs and blasting a climb where nobody tried yet. I dont like a quad rolling down the climb and being in pieces at the bottom, and a dirtbike just flops over and sticking in the hill most of the time… and you can jump off and not bet slammed by it. I am great on a track with a quad, and decent on the bike… but I dont trust 30 other “MX racers” on the track. it is a little easier to stay in one piece when racing 10-15 quads I feel.
I juts watched Huevos 11,203,001 or what ever the new one is, so now I want another quad again! lol
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### Author:  [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ride-dirtbikes-on-ice/240587/20 "2009-01-02T12:43:07Z")
yah I love quads because they are different but when you crash them, chances are you get hurt.
here is my 250R I use to race at royal that you might remember…
before my 250R…I had a 450R I raced up there ( I traded the 450r for the 250r)…
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