# anyone want to hit the ice this weekend? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659 "2009-01-28T18:47:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/301 "2009-02-03T21:31:57Z")
> [@Does .999999 = 1 vPOLL](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/18): > > Smokin, you know of a good “tuner” to throw at my quad? > > I was lookin at this:[http://www.partsforatvs.com/default.asp?p=2629&c=785&cn=M3Q+KFX400+POWER](http://www.partsforatvs.com/default.asp?p=2629&c=785&cn=M3Q+KFX400+POWER) > > Any good? honestly, I had one of them that had 10 different settings on my last yz426 quad…and I sold it and got nice money for it. IMO, they arent really worth the money for the little power you gain all it pretty much does is increase your spark a little and raise your revv limiter…when in reality raising the revv limiter on these doesnt increase power…just makes you able to stay in gears a little longer but sprocket changes do the same damn thing and only cost 15$ each/ does your quad now have a K and N filter? Lid removed? full exhaust and jetted?? even going to 18" tires makes a HUGE difference…thats all us motocross racers run…18" in rear, 20" up front. then mess around with sprockets…1 tooth down/up in the front sprocket is equal to 2 teeth down/up in the rear…bigger the rear sprocket, the more accleration…smaller the rear sprocket, the more top end… bigger front sprocket = top end, smaller front = accleration… then you play around with the two. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/302 "2009-02-03T21:32:55Z")
> [@So my sister ran away today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-ran-away-today/13560/10): > > how did you think it felt power wise? snotty. i think i got maybe more torque but hard to tell with studs vs no studs. yours felt alot “tighter” i liked it ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/303 "2009-02-03T21:35:43Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS"](#): > > the yz 400’s, 426’s and 450’s have a 2 stroke like power where its a “o shit hold on” every second you ride them because they have a “5th valve” compared to all the others that have 4 valves… > > on a yfz450 with just intake and full exhaust, you retard the exhaust cam 1\* and you gain 10whp. Wow, you retard the cam and make more power huh? Interesting. And thats alot of gain for those mods. I see alot of guys dyno tuning their shit. Sometime in the near future i wanna do a header, full exhaust, and an intake…hoping that bumps me up around 10hp or so ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/304 "2009-02-03T21:37:11Z")
i have the lid still on, should i remove it? ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/305 "2009-02-03T21:37:15Z")
> [@The Ex](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ex/13575/3): > > snotty. > > i think i got maybe more torque but hard to tell with studs vs no studs. > > yours felt alot “tighter” i liked it the raptors make alot of low end torque because if their displacement… but when it comes to mid/top end…their not there with the 450’s. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/306 "2009-02-03T21:37:56Z")
i have the lid stillm should i remove it? ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/307 "2009-02-03T21:38:57Z")
> [@Italian Job Style Copper Heist](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/italian-job-style-copper-heist/13537/21): > > Wow, you retard the cam and make more power huh? Interesting. And thats alot of gain for those mods. I see alot of guys dyno tuning their shit. Sometime in the near future i wanna do a header, full exhaust, and an intake…hoping that bumps me up around 10hp or so yah…yamaha kind of “detuned” their engines from the factory so their would be nice gains when it came to mods…the cam mod is the most common mod for them to get the most power… if you do a air filter, and full exhaust make sure you jet it to the specs as well…you dont want it running too lean when it gets colder out. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/308 "2009-02-03T21:39:18Z")
> [@So my sister ran away today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-ran-away-today/13560/11): > > i have the lid stillm should i remove it? They make a K&N kit that replaces the top of the lid with a filter. I was looking into that. As well as the alum air box… ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/309 "2009-02-03T21:39:51Z")
> [@So my sister ran away today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-ran-away-today/13560/11): > > i have the lid stillm should i remove it? in these temps, if you remove the lid you will need to rejet or else you will be running way too lean also, with a removed air lid…your going to need to clean your air filter much more often and use filter oil. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/310 "2009-02-03T21:40:23Z")
> [@There's a million reasons why I want a g/f. And just two reasons why I don't...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-a-million-reasons-why-i-want-a-g-f-and-just-two-reasons-why-i-dont/13554/43): > > yah…yamaha kind of “detuned” their engines from the factory so their would be nice gains when it came to mods…the cam mod is the most common mod for them to get the most power… > > if you do a air filter, and full exhaust make sure you jet it to the specs as well…you dont want it running too lean when it gets colder out. Yeah i have to look into the jetting shit. Never done it before, but I cant imagine its too hard. Just getting the right setup in there i guess. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/311 "2009-02-03T21:40:55Z")
> [@holy shit, a probe+2jz swap+rx-7 IRS=....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/holy-shit-a-probe-2jz-swap-rx-7-irs/13570/9): > > They make a K&N kit that replaces the top of the lid with a filter. I was looking into that. As well as the alum air box… they also have k and n filters and then you get the “outerware” its called that goes over the filter and its water proof…I had that setup on my 450R with no lid and it worked awesome…never sucked in water even during mud races. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/312 "2009-02-03T21:42:47Z")
> [@94Gt5.0"](#): > > Yeah i have to look into the jetting shit. Never done it before, but I cant imagine its too hard. Just getting the right setup in there i guess. you cau usually buy a whole kit with the right jets, air filter and full exhaust… jetting is easy as shit. in the bowl theirs the jet and the needle goes through it…you can actually take off the bowl cap and take the jet out without even taking the carb off the quad…Its like a 6mm for the jet size ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/313 "2009-02-03T21:42:50Z")
> [@Anyone having comp issues with the summer heat??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-having-comp-issues-with-the-summer-heat/13552/9): > > they also have k and n filters and then you get the “outerware” its called that goes over the filter and its water proof…I had that setup on my 450R with no lid and it worked awesome…never sucked in water even during mud races. Wow, i do some trail riding through thick ass mud and rivers, so thats def important!! I was always real weary about crossing deep rivers and sucking up water ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/314 "2009-02-03T21:42:53Z")
> [@Italian Job Style Copper Heist](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/italian-job-style-copper-heist/13537/23): > > in these temps, if you remove the lid you will need to rejet or else you will be running way too lean > > also, with a removed air lid…your going to need to clean your air filter much more often and use filter oil. fuck it then. i wanna quiet down the exhaust though. i got no baffles in it… ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/315 "2009-02-03T21:43:37Z")
> [@Examining a tranny before purchase?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/examining-a-tranny-before-purchase/13463/9): > > the raptors make alot of low end torque because if their displacement… > > but when it comes to mid/top end…their not there with the 450’s. yea, i eventually wanna flip this and get a 400- 450 of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/316 "2009-02-03T21:43:46Z")
> [@Just another new guy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-another-new-guy/13567/3): > > you cau usually buy a whole kit with the right jets, air filter and full exhaust… > > jetting is easy as shit. in the bowl theirs the jet and the needle goes through it…you can actually take off the bowl cap and take the jet out without even taking the carb off the quad…Its like a 6mm for the jet size So they have pre-engineered jets/sizes for the mods you have?? That eliminates alot of bs! ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/317 "2009-02-03T21:44:43Z")
> [@Just another new guy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-another-new-guy/13567/4): > > fuck it then. i wanna quiet down the exhaust though. > > i got no baffles in it… taking the lid off is only going to make the exhaust louder… I dont have a lid, or a baffle in my exhaust… ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/318 "2009-02-03T21:46:07Z")
> [@There's a million reasons why I want a g/f. And just two reasons why I don't...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/theres-a-million-reasons-why-i-want-a-g-f-and-just-two-reasons-why-i-dont/13554/44): > > So they have pre-engineered jets/sizes for the mods you have?? That eliminates alot of bs! yah say if you go and buy a k&n filter, remove your lid and go with a full yoshimura exhaust, you call call up yoshimura directly, tell them your mods, where your located and they will tell you exactly what jets to get I prolly have about 20 different jet sizes laying around…me and my dad always did our jetting by trial and error. starts bucking mid/top end…feel a loss of power then the jet is too big = running rich running lean usually feels like it has the same power everywhere…plus the plug will be white… same thing as a car when it comes to jetting and reading plugs. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/319 "2009-02-03T21:46:07Z")
hmm, i’ll keep it baffleless. i think i had one of the loudest quads on the ice on sunday. mine sounds pretty good imo! ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659/320 "2009-02-03T21:47:32Z")
> [@So my sister ran away today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-sister-ran-away-today/13560/12): > > yah say if you go and buy a k&n filter, remove your lid and go with a full yoshimura exhaust, you call call up yoshimura directly, tell them your mods, where your located and they will tell you exactly what jets to get Damn, thats awesome. I know the one night i was riding in the snow my head pipe was GLOWIN cherry red after some rev-limiter drifting lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-hit-the-ice-this-weekend/241659.md?page=17)