# Anyone weld? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 9, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632 "2008-02-09T20:37:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/61 "2008-03-14T17:38:01Z")
Just found out, 5 minutes ago i got a Manager job at a countertop place out near lathem. making 17/hr and 18.75/hr after 3 months… so no more 31 an hour but i well fun while it lasted ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/62 "2008-03-19T14:45:55Z")
> [@Hooked on 240](#): > > no i work 8 hours a day and 5 days a week and get paind i get paind too…everytime i look at my paycheck and know its allready spent its a pain ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/63 "2008-04-17T05:27:54Z")
> [@Hank](#): > > well normal welding rate is any where’s between 65 and 75 $ dollars an hour. > > i try to stick to the 65$ mark on normal every day stuff. but if u want to get real wild the price is to!!! > > but just too clarify and so every one else knows too. if ur a memeber of a forum that i exist in and thats where u found me. my labor rate does drop. i wont sya how much but i will take car of u!!! if ur not happy i wont suck ur ass but i will do every thing in my power to make u happy. that said just cuz u can’t satisfy every one and i dont own a whore house!! > > but like i said if u can prover ur a member i will take car of u!!! and of course the more mention my name and frequent our shop the better things get!! get the point!!! > > P.S.as for modern welding BAWAHHHAAAHA!!! if ur looking to take and pass a test go there!! if ur looking how to weld. find a welder to use and old piece of metal. prep it to the best of ur ability. take it and throw that motherfucker across the room!! where ever it lands drag the welder of to it , find the most comfortable postion to weld in with out moving the object 2b welded and weld it!! > > wooola. ur learnig a new craft… in the field there is not a nice cozy table , seat and brandy new metal to weld on. in school there is… > > oh and vlad anger management only works for people who have anger!!1 i dont have anger i’m a HAPPY MOTHERFUCKER!! u know that pal!!! ;D god dont like quitters also so you’ll never see me there!!! :lol so how much would a MIG class at the school of Harold run me? Fuck I’ll even work in the shop. Welding is something that in my current hobby I must know how to do and do well. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/64 "2008-04-21T07:04:22Z")
> [@Wayne64SS](#): > > so how much would a MIG class at the school of Harold run me? Fuck I’ll even work in the shop. Welding is something that in my current hobby I must know how to do and do well. Wayne if you ever find out about a welding class let me know, I need to work on my skillz! ---
**Author:** ![Damonspeeds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c68b51/32.png) [@Damonspeeds](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Damonspeeds)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/65 "2008-04-21T07:27:54Z")
Proffessor Hank that would be a good shift 518 picture ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/66 "2008-04-21T11:35:36Z")
+1 to what Hank said. I’ve done the classes at Modern Welding and didnt learn all that much. I learned more by screwing around with scrap metal at home. I can join metal, but I wouldn’t call it welding. Need more practice. Spend the money from classes on a welder and a pile of scrap metal. Then have someone like Hank check your work and give you pointers. Repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/67 "2008-04-21T14:41:50Z")
pointer number 1. the welder only works when the light is on and the ground cable is hooked up. OOOPs. u must of foregot that :lol one student a month is all i can handle right now. ---
**Author:** ![YFZ460](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yfz460/32/6343_2.png) [@YFZ460](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YFZ460)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/68 "2008-04-22T21:56:54Z")
> [@Hank](#): > > pointer number 1. > > the welder only works when the light is on and the ground cable is hooked up. LOL, thats a good one! :lol ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/69 "2008-04-23T18:44:05Z")
pointer 2 all those holes in ur weld. weld if thats what u call. but it kind of looks alot like sugar now. oooopps yes u should of turned shield gas on first!!! :idiots ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/70 "2008-04-23T18:51:39Z")
Question: How can I avoid burning though thin sheet metal (import body panels)? I’m on the lowest current setting and running 0.024" wire. It seems I either get shitty weld blobs that don’t stick or burn though… ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/71 "2008-04-23T18:53:14Z")
what wire r u using??? not size type. solid wire, flux cored, inner shield or outer shield?? ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/72 "2008-04-23T18:56:24Z")
I’m using Solid, with Ar/CO2 shielding gas get around 10psi (i think…). I don’t know what inner or outer shield is. ---
**Author:** ![NaN20Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@NaN20Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NaN20Neon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/73 "2008-04-23T18:57:44Z")
you might as well start to learn with welding thin panels cause face it or not most cars these days dont have the sheet metal thickness as a older car so learning to weld thin will make thicker metal alittle easier for you down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/74 "2008-04-23T19:08:37Z")
first of all if ur trying to weld it vertically up it ain’t gonna happen. go down hill. not sure exactly what or were ur trying to weld. the tighter ur stick out is (gap between nozzle and object 2b welded.) the hotter it will be. u can vary ur amp by about 5 to 10 amps by playing with this distance. i.e further away less heat closer more heat. if u can get a backer plate be hide it that will help greatly disappate the heat. if not try to weld small sections in one area at a time about 1/2" or so. you’ll be more able to tell then me. if the base metal looks like it’s gonna fall out u went to long. biggest thing is if ur welding in a patch panel or small piece. let’s say a 3x3 square or 3" circle. ur gonna want to go at least a 1.5" beyond that point or more or less depending on how the base material is that ur welding to. u basically want cut out all the old stuff to get to good sturdy base before u try to weld in a the patch panel. if my grammar and spelling sucks fuck u lol I’m exhausted and inhaled more welding fumes the anyone human should in 1 day :confused :idiots ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/75 "2008-04-23T19:10:27Z")
> [@NaN20Neon](#): > > you might as well start to learn with welding thin panels cause face it or not most cars these days dont have the sheet metal thickness as a older car so learning to weld thin will make thicker metal alittle easier for you down the road. fahk u learn on 1.5" plate :banana. worry about smaller shit later just remember to adjust ur settings accordingly :wow ---
**Author:** ![NaN20Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@NaN20Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NaN20Neon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/76 "2008-04-23T19:17:29Z")
hey ease up boss man i dont bug you with questions i learn by fucking shit up all on my own prime example my neon. lol :headbang ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/77 "2008-04-23T19:22:32Z")
u take me too seiously sumtimes :haha ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/78 "2008-04-23T19:25:37Z")
Exactly, learning to weld thin material is the wrong way to start. Pick up some 1/4 -1" scrap shit and weld that stuff. Learn how to prep the weld seams as that’s the most important, and most overlooked, step of the whole process. Edge bevels and overlap where necessary are key to a good strong weld. ninety1two40 if the weld is looking like “blobs”, your temp is too low or your wire speed to high. If the arc sputters in and out very fast your feed is too high, if the wire burns back to the tip it’s too low…adjust accordingly. Typical sheet metal these days on cars is about 18g, so set your welder to about 40amps, and if you have an adjustable feed from like 1-10 set it about 4-5. Typicall on an average lincoln mig, like my SP135T, this would be a “B” setting at 4.5wire feed for 16-18G sheetmetal. Keep the nozzel close to the metal(~1/4") and spot weld the material in. Trigger intervals of about a second area all you should need. Stitch weld in 1/2" increments, space far apart along the seam, on large flat panels to avoid thermal distortion(it _ **WILL** _ happen if you don’t heed that). Take your time and allow the metal to cool in between stitches(warm to the touch is fine). Sheilding gas you’re using is fine(“Stargon”), but turn the CFM up to about 15 or so. Helps to cool the weld pool quicker and keep the contaminates down. Metal should be lapped(flanged) like Hank said on any patch panel. But welds are guaranteed to warp and distort giving false bodylines. If you’re tig welding 18G…1/16 tungsten, 60 degree taper, 25 amps, 16hz pulse and it’ll be beautiful. No need for filler if the seams a tight. ---
**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/79 "2008-04-23T19:32:42Z")
i believe he said he was on lowest setting and still burning thru. but tuff to say with out being there. i think he may not be far enough out side of the contaminated area of base metal. how is ur fit up and prep r the two surfaces good and clean r there large gaps in ur fit up or r the pnaels to be welded tight? ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632/80 "2008-04-24T04:08:06Z")
Wow thanks guys, alot of good info that I didn’t know about! I don’t have a body panel I’m working on now, I was just talking in general about past things I was trying to do. But yes I do understand about making sure to cut all the old rusted metal out enough for patch panels and the thermal distortion if I don’t tack the panel all the way around. What I didn’t know about is how the distance between the nozzle and metal might affect my current. And I have welded more with thicker metals and can weld them pretty good. I know I have to work on preping the edges better and probably better grounds in come cases. I just have to get good enough so I can look at what I’m welding and know what settings to use. I’ll just have to get some thin scrap metal around and practice more. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-weld/235632.md?page=3)