# Apple beat Samsung.  Samsung ordered to pay $1.05B in damages.

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**Created:** [August 27, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548 "2012-08-27T06:38:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/21 "2012-08-27T19:23:50Z")

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I’ve had both phones, iPhone anyday

smaller, way more user friendly, more adaptive

Could the other phone be faster, do more, blah blah blah, not for the average user

Seriously if youre phone becomes your life get some fucking friends

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/22 "2012-08-27T19:33:00Z")

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iOS is to phones is like AOL used to be for fggts who didn’t know how to open a web browser.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/23 "2012-08-28T05:28:40Z")

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Here’s a rundown of the actual patents the jury found samsung infringing on. Keep in mind it’s coming from BGR so you can expect a pro-apple bias.

> **[Apple vs. Samsung: The gory details](http://bgr.com/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-trial-verdict-samsung-loses-big/)**
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> Analysts who predicted that Samsung (005930) would get slaughtered by Apple (AAPL) in the biggest patent trial of the century so far, pat yourselves on the back. The jury’s verdict against Sa…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/24 "2012-08-28T05:31:47Z")

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> [@Spam16v](#):
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> iOS is to phones is like AOL used to be for fggts who didn’t know how to open a web browser.

Worst comparison ever

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**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/25 "2012-08-28T06:07:07Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Worst comparison ever

How so? Makes sense to me.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/26 "2012-08-28T06:09:09Z")

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> [@Spam16v](#):
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> iOS is to phones is like AOL used to be for fggts who didn’t know how to open a web browser.

Wow you are dumb.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/27 "2012-08-28T06:37:12Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Worst comparison ever

Yeah I think it makes sense in a way. Most apple consumers are buying an apple product because it’s an apple product. They don’t know why it’s good, how it’s good, all they know is their friends and family have them, it’s expensive, and it’s made by Apple. I’m not lumping all users in there, because there are definitely Apple power users. My parents even though they have 35/35 FiOS internet, still use the AOL desktop client for browsing the internet. I’ve tried pushing browsers on them and they won’t listen.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/28 "2012-08-28T06:40:18Z")

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I dunno. I hate their marketing/culture crap as much as anyone, but they make some really good shit.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/29 "2012-08-28T06:57:25Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> I dunno. I hate their marketing/culture crap as much as anyone, but they make some really good shit.

This. I absolutely hate going to the apple store because the level of douche there is way over my tolerance levels, but my iPhone just works. Be it as a phone, tomtom GPS, video streamer when we were in outer banks or back woods GPS snowmobiling. People really need to get over their whole “but I hate the company” thing. Brand loyalty is for idiots.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/30 "2012-08-28T07:03:49Z")

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Word. Hating a company because its founder was a fruitarian d-bag is as bad as loving it because purchasing their products make you smarter than the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/31 "2012-08-28T07:12:46Z")

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> [@08GT500](#):
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> How so? Makes sense to me.

Because AOL an internet service provider that didn’t give access to the internet in its original design has nothing do with a smart phone?

The only thing I can possibly think of is the App Store controlling Apps? However ask Android security people how well that App store/unsigned code is going for them.

Let me give you a hint - [Kaspersky: Android Malware Threats Increased Threefold In Q2 | Redmond Pie](http://www.redmondpie.com/kaspersky-android-malware-threats-increased-threefold-in-q2/)

I love that the anti apple bandwagon hates on the apple bandwagon for being a bandwagon.

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/32 "2012-08-28T07:18:21Z")

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Google says enough… decides to go after Apple, essentially defending Motorola:

> **[Google Has Had Enough: Files Lawsuit To Ban Multiple Apple Products - AndroidPIT](https://www.androidpit.com/google-vs-apple-android)**
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> Google is now directly seeking a ban with Motorola on sales of Apple products including the iPad, iPhone, and Macs in the United States.

"This is the first case that Google has signed off on in defending their new hardware company, meaning that there’s no more lurking in the background providing support. This is full on Google with their law team directly involved. This isn’t Google watching from the sidelines, but instead, they are calling this one play by play. But Google and Motorola were clever, as this isn’t a lawsuit that focuses on silly topics such as icons or square shaped tablets.

Google and Motorola are claiming patent infringement for non-standard essential patents. **To put it simply, Google-rola has filed a case for a patent that courts cannot legally force companies to license, meaning that if they win this case, Apple could be forced to completely stop using the technology in their devices."**

This is the heavyweight bout, kids.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/33 "2012-08-28T07:20:09Z")

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Hopefully Google stepping in gets all of these stupid tech companies to stop doing battle :lol:

The tech field is one area the US is actually innovating but lets try to find new ways to be greedy and fuck that up.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/34 "2012-08-28T07:30:02Z")

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LZ = thinking from a technical point of view  
08GT500 = thinking from a social point of view

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**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/35 "2012-08-28T07:36:03Z")

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anyway here is a video interview of the jury foreman

[http://www.bloomberg.com/video/apple-jury-foreman-here-s-how-we-reached-a-verdict-RqtqHC25QbOBFg7xrWa5Wg.html](http://www.bloomberg.com/video/apple-jury-foreman-here-s-how-we-reached-a-verdict-RqtqHC25QbOBFg7xrWa5Wg.html)

after watching the video I cannot help but think they had no clue what they were doing

@2:57 he talks about prior art and how the apple patent is still valid because it cannot be put onto another processor?? WTF??

@13:30 he talks about the design patent and completely contradicts himself a few seconds later

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/36 "2012-08-28T07:36:12Z")

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Even from a social point of view the reason people use computers like they do today is because of AOL.

Oh and since we mentioned AOL

![http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/5192012043239windows8vsaol.jpeg](http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/5192012043239windows8vsaol.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/37 "2012-08-28T07:47:40Z")

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^ Just printed out that AOL/Win8 graphic and stuck it on my wall here at work.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/38 "2012-08-28T07:58:36Z")

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ermmm mah gahhhddd

SAMSIES:

![http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51x-Mt4Dx0L.SL500_AA300.jpg](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51x-Mt4Dx0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

 ![http://images.macworld.com/images/news/graphics/133988-iphone3g.jpg](http://images.macworld.com/images/news/graphics/133988-iphone3g.jpg)

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/39 "2012-08-28T10:59:56Z")

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> [@ProgRocker](#):
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> Yeah I think it makes sense in a way. Most apple consumers are buying an apple product because it’s an apple product. They don’t know why it’s good, how it’s good, all they know is their friends and family have them, it’s expensive, and it’s made by Apple. I’m not lumping all users in there, because there are definitely Apple power users. My parents even though they have 35/35 FiOS internet, still use the AOL desktop client for browsing the internet. I’ve tried pushing browsers on them and they won’t listen.

THIS. SO MUCH THIS.

and im simply talking from a sheep mentality. people have no idea why they want it, but “everyone” else has one so they have to.

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**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-beat-samsung-samsung-ordered-to-pay-1-05b-in-damages/225548/40 "2012-08-28T11:10:25Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Because AOL an internet service provider that didn’t give access to the internet in its original design has nothing do with a smart phone?
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> The only thing I can possibly think of is the App Store controlling Apps? However ask Android security people how well that App store/unsigned code is going for them.
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> Let me give you a hint - [Kaspersky: Android Malware Threats Increased Threefold In Q2 | Redmond Pie](http://www.redmondpie.com/kaspersky-android-malware-threats-increased-threefold-in-q2/)
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> I love that the anti apple bandwagon hates on the apple bandwagon for being a bandwagon.

You’re missing the point. Its quite simple really. AOL dumbed down connecting to and browsing the web. Apple/iPhone dumbed down smart phones for the masses. Both easy to use for the lazy and/or intellectually challenged.

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