# Apple stepping up
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [February 17, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620 "2016-02-17T05:29:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/41 "2016-02-19T12:40:43Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> Guys the problem has been solved
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> **McAfee will break iPhone crypto for FBI in 3 weeks or eat shoe on live TV**
> [McAfee will break iPhone crypto for FBI in 3 weeks or eat shoe on live TV | Ars Technica](http://arstechnica.co.uk/staff/2016/02/mcafee-will-break-iphone-crypto-for-fbi-in-3-weeks-or-eat-shoe-on-live-tv/)
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> **It’s part of the political agenda from the FBI on their full court press against encryption hoping they can use terrorism in the US to sway public perception.**
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> This is his WORK phone they’re trying to access not his personal which why it makes it seem less plausible it holds anything useful.
this.
> [@LZ](#):
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> Its just really entertaining to sit in talks from the FBI while they bitch about cyber crime and how companies need to increase security while watching their director discuss needing to backdoor encryption mechanisms because they don’t understand how math works.
Really this is one of the reasons why I backed off going to the local Infragard meetings. The FBI acts like it’s a huge benefit for the community, but really they are just wanting to use intel from our organizations to benefit themselves.
They’ve been pushing this tool [http://www.malwareinvestigator.gov/](http://www.malwareinvestigator.gov/) for Infragard members to use to analyze malware. Claiming it’s built to help us lol. So let me get this straight, you want me to take every piece of malware I find in my environment and upload it to your portal, with my organization’s name associated with that malware? And you’re going to claim that it’s for MY benefit? I think I’ll stick to malwr and hybrid-analysis, Thanks.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/42 "2016-02-19T12:40:58Z")
> [@boxxa](#):
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> It’s really more divided then you make it out to be.
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> I guess 3 of the 4 top front runners of the GOP presidential ticket and the leader of the Senete committee creating laws direction our intelligence and information gathering more than “divided”
**Feinstein vows to offer bill to pierce encryption**
[http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/262658-feinstein-vows-to-offer-encryption-piercing-bill](http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/262658-feinstein-vows-to-offer-encryption-piercing-bill)
Yea the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (Vice Chairman) who is also a democrat…
Meanwhile Hillary and Bernie won’t pick a side in the Apple debate probably waiting on polling lol
I don’t know why you want to make this purely a political thing like I said their are high ranking republicans and democrats on both sides of the issue…Hell Obama and the Whitehouse want Apple to decrypt it also.
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/43 "2016-02-19T12:51:41Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> **Feinstein vows to offer bill to pierce encryption**
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> [http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/262658-feinstein-vows-to-offer-encryption-piercing-bill](http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/262658-feinstein-vows-to-offer-encryption-piercing-bill)
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> Yea the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (Vice Chairman) who is also a democrat…
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> Meanwhile Hillary and Bernie won’t pick a side in the Apple debate probably waiting on polling lol
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> I don’t know why you want to make this purely a political thing like I said their are high ranking republicans and democrats on both sides of the issue…Hell Obama and the Whitehouse want Apple to decrypt it also.
Its an election year, this is going to see how they can benefit the most. Obama to be honest was a big surprise after he pushed to limit the NSA powers. I really want to see what is on this phone that is causing such a push for the data. The encryption laws are the new Patriot Act. No way that bill would have gone thorough if it wasn’t after 9/11.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/44 "2016-02-19T12:53:06Z")
> [@boxxa](#):
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> … They never did give out details how they obtained them through a failure of current laws from the dealers or if they used another means did they?
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> [Charges Brought Against Man Who Bought Guns Used In San Bernardino Attack : The Two-Way : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/17/460113233/charges-brought-against-man-who-bought-guns-used-in-san-bernardino-attack)
Two words: straw + buyer. No failure of the law, the guy passed a background check.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/45 "2016-02-19T12:55:51Z")
> [@boxxa](#):
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> Its an election year, this is going to see how they can benefit the most. Obama to be honest was a big surprise after he pushed to limit the NSA powers. I really want to see what is on this phone that is causing such a push for the data. The encryption laws are the new Patriot Act. No way that bill would have gone thorough if it wasn’t after 9/11.
Again there isn’t shit on the phone its the dudes work phone…It’s been a coordinated attack for the last year on encryption and Apple about this stuff.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/46 "2016-02-19T12:56:27Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> … I don’t know why you want to make this purely a political thing…
I’ll take the blame for derailing this thread, but it’s at least relevant to the overarching story.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/47 "2016-02-19T13:10:08Z")
Everyone in the US gov’t only stands to benefit from getting Apple to comply. It’s not about the Elephant or the Donkey. It’s about, “We need to beat the terrorists”. And EVERYONE in Washington and in all of the 3 letter agencies will be happy to burn the constitution to ashes if they think it would make it “easier” to wage their “war on terror”.
Basically what it comes down to is, Law Enforcement Investigations are hard. They want to answer certain questions, and when those answers lie solely on encrypted devices, they hit major roadblocks that they may never get passed.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/48 "2016-02-19T13:15:01Z")
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And lol my boss was just on CNBC about this
[http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000495419](http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000495419)
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/49 "2016-02-19T13:18:31Z")
LOL! 👏
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/50 "2016-02-22T07:28:00Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Two words: straw + buyer. No failure of the law, the guy passed a background check.
Why I never said it would have helped =) I thought I remembered someone else buying the guns for them. Also, there will never be just one law to fix all this or prevent anything.
> [@LZ](#):
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> Again there isn’t shit on the phone its the dudes work phone…It’s been a coordinated attack for the last year on encryption and Apple about this stuff.
Yep. Just using an event and fear to stretch their government reach.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/51 "2016-02-22T07:37:27Z")
Boss was on Fox last night about this…This interview was funny because it wasn’t supposed to be one sided he was kinda pissed after it was over.
https://player.vimeo.com/video/156260338?app_id=122963
I think the two biggest points here is the FBI requested the password be reset causing this lock out and this was the WORK phone he actively went out of his way to destroy his personal phone.
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### Author:  [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/52 "2016-02-22T08:00:28Z")
Just watched and LOL’ed. Consequences will never be the same.
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### Author:  [@purestock240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/purestock240)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/53 "2016-02-22T09:06:48Z")
not sure how he held up from calling her out on being a c\*\*t at about half way
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/54 "2016-02-22T09:26:13Z")
Apple posted a FAQ about this to answer some questions without the hear-say
> **[Customer Letter - FAQ - Apple](https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/)**
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> Answers to your questions about Apple and security
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/55 "2016-02-22T09:34:47Z")
> [@TradersBASE](#):
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> Just watched and LOL’ed. Consequences will never be the same.
lol
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### Author:  [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/56 "2016-02-22T10:20:39Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> lol
I showed his FB post earlier to my one student assistant and we were dying. Woulda been better with white socks though.
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### Author:  [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/57 "2016-02-22T10:29:26Z")
> [@purestock240](#):
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> not sure how he held up from calling her out on being a c\*\*t at about half way
This.
EDIT: Can you say Cunt? CUNT CUNT CUNT… yep.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/58 "2016-02-22T11:55:51Z")
Haha Good lord. That woman is a moron and I just hate the way her face looks. She has the demeanor of a woman who was never noticed and often overlooked and is on a power trip now because she landed a job in the media. Comb over boy is stuck back in the 1960s when the government didn’t breach this far into its citizens privacy.
Such a one sided debate have you. There will always be two views and two sides to a story. I hate shit that goes down that way. What was the point of that?
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/59 "2016-02-22T18:19:29Z")
> [@Mr. T](#):
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> Such a one sided debate have you. There will always be two views and two sides to a story. I hate shit that goes down that way. What was the point of that?
Like everything else on Fox News, to scare old people.
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/apple-stepping-up/273620/60 "2016-02-23T07:00:28Z")
Unsealed federal court cases where the DoJ wants Apple to decrypt a phone.
[http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/apple\_allwrits\_list.pdf](http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/apple_allwrits_list.pdf)
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