# Are Motorsports "Real" Sports? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 15, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837 "2009-05-15T08:53:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/1 "2009-05-15T08:53:53Z")
Bored at work today so I thought I would ask a semi subjective question which stems from a debate im having on another forum… My answer is no… As I recognize the physical, mental, and strategic demands of racing (of all types), I discredit motorsports as being true sports due to the fact that they are too reliant on machinery/equipment/technology/etc. (When I say physical I mean everything from literally the turning of the wheel and pushing of the pedals, all the way to having your body be able to take the rigors of constant cornering and etc). Essentially, I feel motorsports are not a true competition of “talent vs talent.” What do you guys think… btw the other forum is almost 90% on the “yes” ballot. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/2 "2009-05-15T08:55:01Z")
I say YES I will put you in a fast car against a Talented driver in a slow car, and you will see that it is talent vs. talent. The machinery can only do so much. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/3 "2009-05-15T08:59:54Z")
Poll up I guess ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/4 "2009-05-15T09:02:50Z")
If people consider cycling and horse racing as a sport than auto racing should also be considered a sport. As for the talent vs talent there are plenty of spec races as well as situations where it was clear that a slower car won simply because of the amazing effort of a driver/team (lemans last year with the r10 beating the 908) that would tend to prove that talent can be the difference maker. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/5 "2009-05-15T09:14:37Z")
Yes ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/6 "2009-05-15T09:17:25Z")
where’s that “trackdays; because golf is for pussies” motivational poster ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/7 "2009-05-15T09:21:23Z")
Talent, physical/mental demand, skill, strategy, pressure, practice, execution, coordination, competition. Absolutely yes. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/8 "2009-05-15T09:23:35Z")
There are only three true sports - mountain climbing, bull fighting and motor racing. The rest are merely games. -Hemmingway ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/9 "2009-05-15T09:25:48Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > There are only three true sports, mountain climbing, bull fighting and motor racing. The rest are mere games. -Hemmingway Haha… I knew it was just a matter of time before that came out. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/10 "2009-05-15T09:33:16Z")
As much as I love motorsports, no they’re not. Of course I keep a pretty strict definition and don’t consider stupid crap like bowling or billiards quality sports I say no because there are way too many factors into most motorsports, from your engineering, platform, tuning, tire compound, pit crew and on and on. ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/11 "2009-05-15T09:40:39Z")
those same factors come into every sport. hockey for example; composite sticks- flex, one piece vs two piece. t-blades vs conventional skates, radiuses, hollows, etc. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/12 "2009-05-15T09:41:15Z")
> [@Coldaccord](#): > > those same factors come into every sport. hockey for example; composite sticks- flex, one piece vs two piece. t-blades vs conventional skates, radiuses, hollows, etc. not even close to comparable. sorry. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/13 "2009-05-15T09:49:30Z")
> [@Coldaccord](#): > > those same factors come into every sport. hockey for example; composite sticks- flex, one piece vs two piece. t-blades vs conventional skates, radiuses, hollows, etc. I get your point on that, and in essence, you could argue that in any sport. I just feel racing crosses the line of what you can measure as a true sport based on toooooo many factors. I used to play speedball too (paintball), and I would never call that a sport either. Too much reliance on how much money you could spend on what kind of gun, and shoot how much of what quality paint. I guess this is the subjective part. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/14 "2009-05-15T10:17:54Z")
In most professional motorsports though the money issue is evened out because all the teams spend mega bucks. Do you really think money is the reason driver X comes in 2nd instead of 1st in Nascar, or IRL, or Formula 1? ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/15 "2009-05-15T10:25:24Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > In most professional motorsports though the money issue is evened out because all the teams spend mega bucks. Do you really think money is the reason driver X comes in 2nd instead of 1st in Nascar, or IRL, or Formula 1? No, but then it could also come down to crews abilities, resources (in case of factory teams), conditions (during qualifying), etc. Again, im sure there could be parallels drawn for every sport though. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/16 "2009-05-15T10:25:56Z")
Yes. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/17 "2009-05-15T10:38:02Z")
In the NFL overtime games are basically decided by a fucking coin toss, and you want to debate the weather during qualifying as the reason to exclude motorsports from the sports genre? :roflpicard: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/18 "2009-05-15T10:45:32Z")
Without a fucking doubt. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/19 "2009-05-15T10:45:43Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > In the NFL overtime games are basically decided by a fucking coin toss, and you want to debate the weather during qualifying as the reason to exclude motorsports from the sports genre? :roflpicard: Haha… and how scrutinized is the NFL for that. I was just using that as an additional point lol. I would use officiating discretion in soccer as an example over that lol. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837/20 "2009-05-15T10:45:45Z")
![http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7420/racingiz6.jpg](http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7420/racingiz6.jpg) sports I care about. hockey. Shit with cars. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-motorsports-real-sports/67837.md?page=2)