# Are used USED Euro Turbo SUVs cool at all?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 20, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307 "2023-11-20T22:05:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/21 "2024-01-02T18:54:19Z")

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How reliable are those engines?

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/22 "2024-01-03T06:45:51Z")

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They arnt. Pcv lines, oil drain lines, injectors, coil packs etc

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/23 "2024-01-03T12:21:57Z")

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Which is why you can buy a car that stickered for close to 100k in 2011 for under 20k now. It’s rolling around about to be mechanically totalled at any minute.

This was an especially bad example, but the mechanic really does tear all of them apart.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/8/78e54a344b7ddf4750b62144ddc9fccce3dd9dd4.jpeg "Everything that's broken on the WORST BMW EVER MADE (My mechanic HATES the X6M more than me)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvi3tV1dnxM)

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/24 "2024-01-03T15:07:17Z")

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lol

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/d/0d12683c803d4c4578ec3134d3ed73ae9d2b8604.jpeg "The seller of my BMW X6M SCAMMED me worse than I could have imagined! It's no longer M-powered???") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y56i5pqKdA)

edit: lol 2

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/6/66e60e2182bf90f1cc60cf0e324074ef7a3d1dd3.jpeg "I buried my $100,000 BMW X6M (Worst car ever!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CmqcFIGYt4)

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/25 "2024-01-03T15:24:01Z")

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Yeah, like I said, his was a particularly bad example. 😂

I love in the first video where Ninja goes, “As long as people keep buying these I’ll always have a job”.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/26 "2024-01-03T23:32:27Z")

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Bmw did do a massive warranty extension on a bunch of parts but their mostly aged out by now.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/27 "2024-03-20T04:56:47Z")

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> **[2012 BMW X5 M 4.4 555HP](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/932421874858244/)**
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> 2012 BMW X5 M 4.4 555HP
> Drives Perfect without issues
> Engine And Transmission Perfect 
> Clean Title / No accident / No Dents 
> Clean Carfax Available , No light on the dash.
> 
> All Maintenance Done every...

not sure if you can view that link.

im obsessed with terrible investments.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/28 "2024-03-20T18:57:02Z")

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That engine is the biggest POS ever. I would never tell anyone a first gen s63 is a good motor cuz I’d be lying. I would only get a 2014+ x5m. The engine has a complete 50+% change/update of parts.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/29 "2026-04-04T21:39:55Z")

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bump again:

> **[Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2329696117524394/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Acc683825-19e3-466c-8ade-0321aa359bb1)**

> **[Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/804323572038572/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Acc683825-19e3-466c-8ade-0321aa359bb1)**

or this one:

> **[2016 BMW X5 M PREMIUM PKG | CARBON FIBRE | 20 IN | Cars & Trucks | Mississauga...](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/mississauga-peel-region/2016-bmw-x5-m-premium-pkg-carbon-fibre-20-in/1735108189)**
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> This 2016 BMW X5 M is a local Ontario vehicle that perfectly blends high-performance engineering with everyday luxury an

all down 70% or more from original sticker. i feel like this gen of X5M will be worth buying and keeping for a decade even with maintenance… vs. buying a newer one for more than double the price and still being out of warranty soon.

can’t stop thinking about it.

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Just do it already, lol

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/31 "2026-04-07T02:56:46Z")

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i’m literally sitting here looking at manual M6’s and 911 GTS’s too tho!!!

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/32 "2026-04-08T12:10:33Z")

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pick two then lol

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/33 "2026-04-10T19:11:50Z")

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[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/8/88388a944aed03b78f40c3b8d54bdac4f23dbbe8.jpeg "Drag Race 🏁 £130k BMW X5M vs £40k X5M | 4K") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIliBTa_M4I)

Changed thread title too.

Basically, a software upgrade evens out the power difference between the two. The delta in that vide is about $90k EU. It’s about $50k CAD now between these boys.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/34 "2026-04-10T23:06:34Z")

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This is why I now have zero interest in cars. This is the new goal:

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/d/ada35df0c2bd2b3a775e6e1171f875240d9d9496.jpeg "FOR SALE! Carver 530 VOYAGER PILOTHOUSE PERFORMANCE CRUISER! "Unicorn II"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-5GequO9A)

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/35 "2026-04-11T02:13:39Z")

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Do both

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/36 "2026-04-11T13:37:30Z")

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A used X5M sounds like a maintenance nightmare.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/37 "2026-04-12T14:58:12Z")

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yes, i also have 2 other out-of-warranty, high mileage, BMW M-cars that i’ve daily-driven for over a decade…

it’s like buying expensive shoes. it’s a bad idea if you wear them all the time, you’ll wear them out. But if you KEEP BUYING more and split your use of them between several you end up using them each much less and distrbute the maintenence over time between them.

this is not good financial advice, but it is GREAT life-advice 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/38 "2026-05-02T21:38:32Z")

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I wouldn’t touch a n63/s63 with anyone’s dick in this whole group. They are just dog shit engines. This is coming from a 10+ year bmw tech. Since leaving the auto industry and running my own side shop. The v8’s are just problem after problem. And completely forget about performance mods. A stage 2 off the shelf tune alone put the rods are 90% their limit. If buying a used m car. Make sure it has a I6…period.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/39 "2026-05-03T11:10:32Z")

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@HouseS2K I wish there was a reliability database where people could get accurate data on cars to know if they’re garbage or good. As a mechanic you’re likely going to interact with a majority of broken cars vs. cars that are fine, so your bias is based on your experience. But us non-wrenchers are stuck guessing: we’ll only ever hear about the trash.

I would have never owned any Range Rovers had I listened to the prevailing wisdom, lol.

And maybe these become more of a status symbol because, like an old Ferrari, not only do you need to be able to afford the car, but you need to be able to afford the _maintenance_.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-used-used-euro-turbo-suvs-cool-at-all/1414307/40 "2026-05-08T13:07:26Z")

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Thoughts on used premium EV SUVs? Most have 7 or more years of EV battery warranty and offer a ton of performance for the $

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