# are you fat? wanna lose weight and get ripped? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 20, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154 "2007-03-20T10:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/1 "2007-03-20T10:09:34Z")
read this book. > **[gameover\_vol2.pdf](https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/docs/2007/gameover_vol2.pdf)** > > 0 B ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/2 "2007-03-20T10:19:51Z")
Too much reading. I’ll just stick with lots of fruits and vegetables, lean meats, and whole grains, dairy, etc. No junk food. Oh yeah, lots of exercise too. Just like my Grandma told me. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/3 "2007-03-20T10:19:58Z")
from a quick skim it looks like a TKD. if you’re working out regularly this is the way to go. if you’re lazy/busy i would suggest a CKD to people. i will have to sit down later and read the whole article, i would like to see his break down of marcos. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/4 "2007-03-20T10:22:11Z")
[quote=“BikerFry,post:2,topic:26154"”] Too much reading. I’ll just stick with lots of fruits and vegetables, lean meats, and whole grains, dairy, etc. No junk food. Oh yeah, lots of exercise too. Just like my Grandma told me. [/quote] +1 minus the whole granny thing haha. Anywho, looks like it has some nice recipes in there though! ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/5 "2007-03-20T10:48:28Z")
i really wish i had a second or more to read through it, and even though it is mentioned a couple times, this is solely for cutting for competition purposes. don’t confuse it for a weight loss regiment or a guide towards healthy living. i too would like to see the macros it recommends. while bulking, i try and stick to .4g fat/target lean body weight (TLBW) 2.5g fat/tlbw 1.4g pro/tlbw, cutting .5g fat/tlbw 1.2g pro/tlbw 1g carb/tlbw my main nutrition resource is also a big participator on [bodybuilding.com](http://bodybuilding.com), [http://www.alanaragon.com/](http://www.alanaragon.com/) his book is pretty good. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![taurusho](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/taurusho/32/7184_2.png) [@taurusho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taurusho)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/6 "2007-03-20T11:55:32Z")
UD2 is an amazing diet that lets you pig out for 36 hours a week on carbs like no other. I know it comes down to having the discipline to eat clean, but theres nothing like pounding down 6000-7000 calories of carbs in 36 hours… especially if you’re like me and love to eat… a bit too much. UD2 ftw. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/7 "2007-03-20T11:58:27Z")
[quote=“taurusho,post:6,topic:26154"”] UD2 is an amazing diet that lets you pig out for 36 hours a week on carbs like no other. I know it comes down to having the discipline to eat clean, but theres nothing like pounding down 6000-7000 calories of carbs in 36 hours… especially if you’re like me and love to eat… a bit too much. UD2 ftw. [/quote] carb cycling has been proven to work over and over and over again. i’m gonna try it out in the summer. although i think it’s based on the GI index, which has recently been proven to be pointless and not helpful ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/8 "2007-03-20T12:00:35Z")
What’s the point of that? ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/9 "2007-03-20T12:13:50Z")
[quote=“sureshot!,post:7,topic:26154"”] carb cycling has been proven to work over and over and over again. i’m gonna try it out in the summer. although i think it’s based on the GI index, which has recently been proven to be pointless and not helpful [/quote] i do a CKD and have dropped 4% of my body fat in the last 3 months, and thats with very little exercise, and too much cheating. if it werent for buying my house, and it being our busy season at work im sure i would have been even more successful with my recomp. things are starting to slow down here now, and i have my equipment setup, so hopefully i can get my workouts in more regularly. ---
**Author:** ![AshyLarry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@AshyLarry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AshyLarry)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/10 "2007-03-21T08:33:03Z")
[quote=“sureshot!,post:7,topic:26154"”] carb cycling has been proven to work over and over and over again. i’m gonna try it out in the summer. although i think it’s based on the GI index, which has recently been proven to be pointless and not helpful [/quote] Carb cycling is great, even with my not so perfect efforts I works great. I usually do something like 3 days of less than 75g, then a day of about 100g, then a day of 200g and back to below 75g. Not exactly perfect but maintains the same idea. And it works! Although when I went through my first large weight loss routine I stuck to the 40/40/20 thing religiously. Now that I have settled down to a somewhat consistent weight, playing with my carb intake works well. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/11 "2007-03-21T08:37:30Z")
Man when I switched from carbs to injection, I became ripped overnight instantly. Wait I seem to be lost here, what I am doing in a health thread. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/12 "2007-03-21T08:46:29Z")
:word: Is carb cycling kind of like sequential turbos? ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/13 "2007-03-21T09:27:25Z")
Interesting stuff. I am more apt to follow work out plans than eating plans but I will have to sit down and read this in depth at some point. I was happy to see grapefruit was thought of so highly. I have been eating them quite a bit lately. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/14 "2007-03-21T10:30:00Z")
[quote=“JaysGreenLX,post:13,topic:26154"”] Interesting stuff. I am more apt to follow work out plans than eating plans but I will have to sit down and read this in depth at some point. I was happy to see grapefruit was thought of so highly. I have been eating them quite a bit lately. [/quote] any body builder/trainer will tell you that the kitchen is just as if not more important than the gym. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/15 "2007-03-21T10:33:01Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:14,topic:26154"”] any body builder/trainer will tell you that the kitchen is just as if not more important than the gym. [/quote] Yup, and the #1 thing always abs are formed in the kitchen, not from hours of cardio/crunches. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/16 "2007-03-21T10:33:38Z")
[quote=“FuzzyFish,post:11,topic:26154"”] Man when I switched from carbs to injection, I became ripped overnight instantly. Wait I seem to be lost here, what I am doing in a health thread. [/quote] Damn you crack me up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-you-fat-wanna-lose-weight-and-get-ripped/26154/17 "2007-03-21T10:46:47Z")
[quote=“Zer0DazE,post:14,topic:26154"”] any body builder/trainer will tell you that the kitchen is just as if not more important than the gym. [/quote] Thats true.