# Armed black man shoots and kills 2 unarmed white people while working **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 26, 2015, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903 "2015-08-26T09:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/21 "2015-08-26T10:59:06Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > I agree with this. However, black/white/yellow/pink/purple/turquoise - from all accounts, this guy was unstable and extremely hard to work with. He was fired for being a pain in the ass and having outbursts. He only made allegations of racism AFTER he was fired. The GM of the station said that it seemed he would try and use ANYTHING he could against someone as being discriminatory or malicious. It would be a ‘racist’ thing, if he killed them because they were white. It’s a complete mental thing to kill them because “they made racist comments and went to HR on me.” If it’s about race, you don’t kill someone because they are racist, you kill them because they are white/black/indian/asian. It stops being about racism, when you video tape it and post it on Facebook. Now it’s about you being completely nuts. True. My point is this case is just as much about race as when a white cop shoots a black man that was trying to kill him. Neither are racism but the media certainly tries to make one about racism. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/22 "2015-08-26T11:08:02Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > True. My point this is this case is just as much about race as when a white cop shoots a black man that was trying to kill him. Neither are racism but the media certainly tries to make one about racism. Yep - Needs to be a two way street. Recent media identification of white on black police incidents bring me right back to the Iraq troop surge era. Sure there are and have been issues. Doesn’t mean every incident needs to be portrayed as such. Anyhow this is a very sad event I almost watched the vid but decided against it. Its sad that people harvest this kind of hate/anger/conflict resolution inside of them. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/23 "2015-08-26T11:11:52Z")
Im going to join the blue man group…everyone loves those guys. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/24 "2015-08-26T11:15:17Z")
Video is just sad. All three victims simply had tunnelvision and did not notice a former coworker standing three feet away, with the firearm drawn. At one point he points it, then adjusts his camera, before repointing and firing. A lesson in situational awareness. I gotta admit, this one hits pretty hard. It’s as senseless as it gets :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/25 "2015-08-26T11:16:30Z")
[[Album] Vester's Rant ![](https://i.imgur.com/gghkZY0.jpg?fb "Vester") ](https://imgur.com/a/6MDh5#gghkZY0) Rant that the shooter sent a Thai restaurant. Guy is NUTS. - - - Updated - - - Shooter died at 1:26pm ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/26 "2015-08-26T11:25:44Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > Video is just sad. All three victims simply had tunnelvision and did not notice a former coworker standing three feet away, with the firearm drawn. At one point he points it, then adjusts his camera, before repointing and firing. > > A lesson in situational awareness. I gotta admit, this one hits pretty hard. It’s as senseless as it gets :tdown: I couldn’t believe when he aimed the gun at her, arm fully extended from about 4 feet away and neither the reporter or the interviewee even noticed. Not that noticing would have made much difference though. - - - Updated - - - > [@Beck](#): > > [Vester's Rant - Album on Imgur](https://imgur.com/a/6MDh5#gghkZY0) > > Rant that the shooter sent a Thai restaurant. Guy is NUTS. Add 10 parts crazy and mix it in with some media race war pot stirring and a little BlackLivesMatter calls for violence and no one should be surprised at the result. ---
**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/27 "2015-08-26T12:37:33Z")
People are constantly trying to distract reporters while they’re on air, I imagine many of them just ignore things in the periphery. It’s also very easy to get tunnel vision if you’re the one being interviewed. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/28 "2015-08-26T12:47:21Z")
@Beck ![http://i.imgur.com/oYHDqO2.png](http://i.imgur.com/oYHDqO2.png) ![http://i.imgur.com/uLLJXTL.png](http://i.imgur.com/uLLJXTL.png) ![http://i.imgur.com/iEiQeLt.png](http://i.imgur.com/iEiQeLt.png) ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/29 "2015-08-26T12:52:56Z")
All this gas in the air and people just gotta walk around casually flicking lighters. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/30 "2015-08-26T13:34:21Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > @**[Beck](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=5819)** > > ![http://i.imgur.com/oYHDqO2.png](http://i.imgur.com/oYHDqO2.png) > > ![http://i.imgur.com/uLLJXTL.png](http://i.imgur.com/uLLJXTL.png) > > ![http://i.imgur.com/iEiQeLt.png](http://i.imgur.com/iEiQeLt.png) He clearly had racist thoughts towards white people. At what point I wonder will racism cease to exist and people just kill someone because they’re an asshole? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/31 "2015-08-26T13:51:47Z")
I’m sure we won’t discuss this as being a hate crime though. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/32 "2015-08-26T14:11:05Z")
Hate crimes are one way streets. This will be labeled as a one off deranged individual. This will spark the mental health debate, because its not an excuse when the roles are reversed. The race baiting groups will say that he was obviously bullied and discriminated against in his profession and life. The US is rapidly heading towards fuckedville and I am wondering what the breaking point of this society will be. All I know is that we are not very far away from it. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/33 "2015-08-26T14:16:10Z")
i lol’d at the title figuring it was a sarcastic take on the situation. gun crime in America is not news or surprising. what makes this unique is that it was on live TV and the fact that the fiance of the woman killed, on top of dealing with her death, has to also deal with the video of her being shot displayed all over the world. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/34 "2015-08-26T14:33:53Z")
Fuck this guy. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/35 "2015-08-26T14:43:47Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > @**[Beck](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=5819)** > > ![http://i.imgur.com/oYHDqO2.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/1/21982ab2b91b404d395dcb497dad7abc05dfb344.png) > > ![http://i.imgur.com/uLLJXTL.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/1/b16cfe061a0d4e8150e30e56c37e563b5ab284e1.png) > > ![http://i.imgur.com/iEiQeLt.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/9/8907844995db725e9671e3f672b658eee91652eb.png) Again, was he racist? Sure? Maybe? No? He certainly didn’t kill them because he was black and they were white. [Murder of James Byrd Jr. - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr). The murder of James Byrd was because of race. They killed him because they were white and he was black. If his manifesto was solely about a race war and feeling discriminated against, then everyone screaming hate crime or racial influence would have a point. The moment you start telling me that Jehovah spoke to him and told him to act and that Sueng Hui Cho is “your boy” and admiring how he got nearly double the amount of Eric and Dylan… it’s not about race anymore. You’re delusional. It’s now a mental health issue. Using the excuse of being black and discriminated against is simply using a delicate social issue to mask your own psychological delusions. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/36 "2015-08-26T15:02:57Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > Again, was he racist? Sure? Maybe? No? He certainly didn’t kill them because he was black and they were white. > > [Murder of James Byrd Jr. - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr). > > The murder of James Byrd was because of race. They killed him because they were white and he was black. > > If his manifesto was solely about a race war and feeling discriminated against, then everyone screaming hate crime or racial influence would have a point. > > The moment you start telling me that Jehovah spoke to him and told him to act and that Sueng Hui Cho is “your boy” and admiring how he got nearly double the amount of Eric and Dylan… it’s not about race anymore. You’re delusional. It’s now a mental health issue. Using the excuse of being black and discriminated against is simply using a delicate social issue to mask your own psychological delusions. yeah / yes :bigtup: ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/37 "2015-08-26T17:35:29Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > Again, was he racist? Sure? Maybe? No? He certainly didn’t kill them because he was black and they were white. > > [Murder of James Byrd Jr. - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr). > > The murder of James Byrd was because of race. They killed him because they were white and he was black. > > If his manifesto was solely about a race war and feeling discriminated against, then everyone screaming hate crime or racial influence would have a point. > > The moment you start telling me that Jehovah spoke to him and told him to act and that Sueng Hui Cho is “your boy” and admiring how he got nearly double the amount of Eric and Dylan… it’s not about race anymore. You’re delusional. It’s now a mental health issue. Using the excuse of being black and discriminated against is simply using a delicate social issue to mask your own psychological delusions. well, the facts are there that he in fact shot both of those people in “honor” of the victims of the Charleston shooting. He didn’t come out and say “I shot those crackers because they were white” but there was enough implied reasoning. Was this guy mental ill? Yes,without a doubt. Was he 100% racially motivated? Doubtful. did his racist views have a roll in the shooting? Without a doubt. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… The murder case you quoted,is it safe to say that those individuals weren’t mentally ill as well? I would say so. Anyone who can do that to another human being is mentally ill. I’m glad race isn’t playing a huge part in this case. I’m generally sick of the finger pointing and race baiting. But to say the murder wasn’t racist is absolutely wrong, i mean, I think we can all agree anyone who is strongly racist is a bit delusional anyways. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/38 "2015-08-26T19:36:02Z")
> [@snowracer101](#): > > well, the facts are there that he in fact shot both of those people in “honor” of the victims of the Charleston shooting. He didn’t come out and say “I shot those crackers because they were white” but there was enough implied reasoning. > Was this guy mental ill? Yes,without a doubt. Was he 100% racially motivated? Doubtful. did his racist views have a roll in the shooting? Without a doubt. > if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck… > > The murder case you quoted,is it safe to say that those individuals weren’t mentally ill as well? I would say so. Anyone who can do that to another human being is mentally ill. > > I’m glad race isn’t playing a huge part in this case. I’m generally sick of the finger pointing and race baiting. But to say the murder wasn’t racist is absolutely wrong, i mean, I think we can all agree anyone who is strongly racist is a bit delusional anyways. Correct ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/39 "2015-08-26T20:35:42Z")
> [Armed black man shoots and kills 2 unarmed white people while working](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?283599-Armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/page2) I don’t understand the thread title. The first part I get. The black guy has arms and shot some people. The second part I don’t get. Both of the white people have arms. What I don’t understand is why a armed man would shoot people with no arms. I leave you with this question. If you had no arms and got arrested would they handcuff you? I have nothing to add to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/armed-black-man-shoots-and-kills-2-unarmed-white-people-while-working/272903/40 "2015-08-26T20:42:08Z")
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