# ARP vs. Golden Eagle

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 11, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990 "2008-11-11T19:31:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Birdman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/birdman/32/5186_2.png) [@Birdman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/1 "2008-11-11T19:31:08Z")

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Whats ur opinion on which main and head studs to use on my b series. I understand that ARP torque are higher than oem which can possibly warp the head, and Golden eagle have the same torque as oem. But i know alot of people use ARP. They are pretty much the same price, just wondering what you guys think are the better quality studs.

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/2 "2008-11-11T19:33:03Z")

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ARP makes good hardware. just be sure to follow the manufacturer’s (ARP or GE) torque specs and sequence. always a good idea to re-tq the heads after a heat-cycle

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**Author:** ![lsvtechatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@lsvtechatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lsvtechatch)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/3 "2008-11-11T19:37:31Z")

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ARP ftw.

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**Author:** ![Birdman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/birdman/32/5186_2.png) [@Birdman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/4 "2008-11-11T19:40:35Z")

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^ so thats a no to ARP?? lol

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**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/5 "2008-11-11T19:41:54Z")

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ARP studs are only threaded into the block hand tight and the nuts are tightened to 85 ft/lbs.

go with arp.

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**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/6 "2008-11-11T19:42:20Z")

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ftw=for the win

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**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/7 "2008-11-11T19:43:05Z")

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Torque all depends on the material of the fastener. ARP might need more torque to properly stretch the fastener because they are made from a stronger material usually 8740 CrMoly, ARP2000 or L-19. I wouldn’t worry about ARP head studs warping a stock B series cylinder head

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**Author:** ![Birdman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/birdman/32/5186_2.png) [@Birdman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/8 "2008-11-11T19:43:28Z")

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oo my bad lol miss understanding. ok thanks brotha

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**Author:** ![Birdman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/birdman/32/5186_2.png) [@Birdman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/9 "2008-11-11T19:44:53Z")

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> [@Firehawk853](#):
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> Torque all depends on the material of the fastener. ARP might need more torque to properly stretch the fastener because they are made from a stronger material usually 8740 CrMoly, ARP2000 or L-19. I wouldn’t worry about ARP head studs warping a stock B series cylinder head

yes that makes sense, thank you

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/arp-vs-golden-eagle/57990/10 "2008-11-11T19:51:46Z")

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aebs has some of the best headstuds for B series IMO

the bottom threads are made so they dont bottom out and possibly ruin the threads/block

i would not recommend main studs unless you do an alignbore/hone on the crank mains  
oem honda main bolts are not known to fail

also the recommendation is good to retoqrue the head studs but i personally dont do it on B-series vtec blocks, i have installed head studs on over 100+ engines and as long as you tq the nuts , loosen, then re-tq them properly you will not have any problems i can guarantee it
