# Art Degrees, especially ones from expensive schools. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031 "2008-09-16T13:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PumiceT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@PumiceT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PumiceT)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/21 "2008-09-16T14:18:55Z")
To make it clear, I don’t have an art degree, I didn’t go to art school, and I don’t really agree with going to school for FINE arts. Fine arts degrees are pretty useless. Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way… Going to school for graphic / Web design isn’t always a bad thing. If you have some talent, but don’t know how to control a brush / pen / pencil / crayon or use a design application as well as you’d like, school can be a relatively good way to force yourself to practice. Having never gone, I can’t imagine they can train people to become creative. So maybe that’s what you guys are getting confused about. You can train people how to use the tools properly, but training someone to be creative is debatable. Also, “art” doesn’t always mean paintings. I’m an “artist,” but what I get paid for wouldn’t really be called “selling art.” ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/22 "2008-09-16T14:24:41Z")
> [@newman](#): > > it’s usually girls, too. but they’re dumb to begin with. hahahah i think we all are with you on that :party2: although the main thing i think about with people going to school for art is becoming anyone that does like logos, signs, billboards. lol then there are those that create fliers, posters, banners, cards. then the ones that think they will make a killing off of the pictures they paint/draw which, when i move and decorate my house i will probably use pictures i find for like $5. lol i bet who ever makes those pictures are making a killing. hahahaha :cky: ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/23 "2008-09-16T14:30:15Z")
Your only option with an art degree is becoming an art teacher…and starting the vicious cycle all over again… ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/24 "2008-09-16T14:50:35Z")
people who go to school for fine art work in museums, galleries, universities etc. If they focus on specific forms of art they can be appraisers, curators, historians, brokers of fine art, consultants in purchasing, storing, valuation, transport etc. Fine art (music, paintings, writing, sculpture, architecture, etc) is a multi-billion dollar industry that really only caters to the super wealthy… None of us are cultured enough to appreciate it or have in-roads… this is a WNY forum remember? I’m sure people in the field of fine art think it’s just as silly to go to racing schools… what are they going to do for a living? be a race car driver?.. pfff… ummm yeah? ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/25 "2008-09-16T14:56:59Z")
You only make money as an artist after you die. If you are an artist and can some how fake your death ALA tu-pac, you’d be a genius ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/26 "2008-09-16T14:59:27Z")
While it’s true that you can make a ton of money in the arts, most people go to school for it, and end up doing something completely different, or working as an art teacher. Either way, art majors are typically stuck up D-bags. Not that engineers have a great rep… ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/27 "2008-09-16T15:20:34Z")
meh, i realise where newman is coming from, but it’s still not that cut and dry. i know lots of people who took decent programs who are still total fuckheads… also know dudes who dropped out of college, went into cardboard sales are are making 6 figures at the age of 23. ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/28 "2008-09-16T15:26:03Z")
I would say it is all what you make of it. I have a friend who graduated from UB with her art degree and wanted to do Fashion Photography… she is in London right now working for a designer making about 1500 a week(pounds). She worked hard in school and made sure she got her name out there so that people saw her hard work. Now I know the idiot girls you are talking about and I just laugh at them ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/29 "2008-09-16T16:17:34Z")
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqg3FD9TMw&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqg3FD9TMw&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/30 "2008-09-16T16:20:15Z")
My sister graduated from Canisius with an Art History degree. Unless you teach, its pretty much useless. She doesn’t want to teach Art History around here, but instead she is going to Taiwan to teach English. I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/31 "2008-09-16T16:24:00Z")
Three girls i know with art degrees are doing well in graphic design, and printing (i guess she makes the printing dyes, intaglio i think its called) :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/32 "2008-09-16T16:57:42Z")
Art school is a great training for becoming a Sales person. You dream up and put together some BS (that’s the easy part), selling it for is the part you learn in school. 😉 X… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/33 "2008-09-16T17:07:54Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > It all depends on your own ability and motivation like anything in life. /thread QFT…it’s all about what you make of it. and let me state that there is a huge difference between commercial art and fine art. Not much is to be had in the realm of fine art… but commercial art such as graphic design can be rather lucrative fields… ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/34 "2008-09-16T18:53:17Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > Art school is a great training for becoming a Sales person. > > You dream up and put together some BS (that’s the easy part), selling it for is the part you learn in school. 😉 > > X… 👏👏👏 ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/35 "2008-09-16T19:26:28Z")
> [@PumiceT](#): > > To make it clear, I don’t have an art degree, I didn’t go to art school, and I don’t really agree with going to school for FINE arts. Fine arts degrees are pretty useless. Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way… > > Going to school for graphic / Web design isn’t always a bad thing. If you have some talent, but don’t know how to control a brush / pen / pencil / crayon or use a design application as well as you’d like, school can be a relatively good way to force yourself to practice. > > Having never gone, I can’t imagine they can train people to become creative. So maybe that’s what you guys are getting confused about. You can train people how to use the tools properly, but training someone to be creative is debatable. > > Also, “art” doesn’t always mean paintings. I’m an “artist,” but what I get paid for wouldn’t really be called “selling art.” Well put. X2. ---
**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/36 "2008-09-16T19:43:04Z")
> [@newman"](#): > > I always lol when people tell me that they are going to school for art… You need to become a bit more educated about art schools then. I know where you’re coming from with that comment, as I heard it before when I made the decision to go to art school…but like any field, you’re going to see those who have succeeded and those who are struggling. I saw both in my 100K education, but can say with confidence that a majority of my graduating class are doing very well in their field. As said before, it’s all about the individual and the knowledge of the industry that they take with them _after_ graduation that will determine their success. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/37 "2008-09-16T20:03:50Z")
I am getting a degree in graphic design and it is still technically called “art school”. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/38 "2008-09-16T20:07:24Z")
My brothers best friend in high school went to art school. She now lives in NYC and does pretty good money acting/broadway stuff. She also is currently dating Gavin Degraw (if anybody on here knows who that is, he is a pop singer). Other people I know who went to art school are either a) unemployed b) living at home unemployed or c) unemploye, living at home, and huge hippies. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/39 "2008-09-16T20:59:32Z")
> [@ryanmcell](#): > > Other people I know who went to art school are either a) unemployed b) living at home unemployed or c) unemploye, living at home, and huge hippies. you get that with any field of study. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/art-degrees-especially-ones-from-expensive-schools/55031/40 "2008-09-17T05:37:54Z")
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