# ATT: ALL watch out for Z\_roots! **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [October 19, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289 "2008-10-19T13:52:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/1 "2008-10-19T13:52:33Z")
What type of person would intentionally screw someone? That’s the question I’m left asking myself after doing business with Z\_roots. I recently sold Z\_roots a few after market parts (suspension,exhaust,cai) that were in used condition, we agreed on a price but after a few P/Ms back and forth I accepted his offer of $50 cheaper because he would be doing all the traveling since I have no car. After being told he was coming to get the parts on a Friday I took off my suspension on Thursday and put my car on jacks just to get a call and find out he couldn’t make it out for a week. Then I get another call on the day hes supposed to come asking me if I can meet him half way (with no car?), so I call up another member Izzy\_domain to drive me half way. Z\_roots and I finally meet and I get lowballed $100 after our agreement and everything I had been through. I take the lowball since I had to pay Izzy\_domain for gas and I told z\_roots the front top mounts of the suspension should be replaced since they were rusted out and I broke a bolt when I was taking it off. We made the deal and he told me he would ship his stock suspension the next day or two at the latest and I still don’t have shit. Its been about 1 month, you can see it for yourself in these pictures below that my car is still on jacks. I hope this will inform anyone that’s thinking of doing business with him to think twice On top of all that I can’t believe he had the nerve to leave a negative on my iTrader. Does anyone have any idea how I can get rid of my car since there is no suspension on it? Thanks for your time. ![[IMG]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3476/billsalezt5.th.png](http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=billsalezt5.png)[![http://img383.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif](http://img383.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)](http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)[/IMG] ![[IMG]http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9784/zroots2sk9.th.jpg](http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zroots2sk9.jpg)[![http://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif](http://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)](http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)[/IMG] ![[IMG]http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/884/zroots1vs0.th.jpg](http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zroots1vs0.jpg)[![http://img296.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif](http://img296.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)](http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)[/IMG] ---
**Author:** ![reconJDM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reconjdm/32/5510_2.png) [@reconJDM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reconJDM)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/2 "2008-10-19T14:08:58Z")
that sucks bro, should had recorded his driver license and phone number as well into the agreement. msg blackbeast, I remember he has a parts car, probably willing help you out with stock shocks. ---
**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/3 "2008-10-19T17:05:22Z")
Whats the point of writing up a bill of sale agreement if you’re not even gonna use it? Take it to court. Isnt that why you went through the trouble of having two people sign an agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Kengi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kengi/32/5575_2.png) [@Kengi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kengi)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/4 "2008-10-19T17:12:22Z")
people like that make me sick… if he was a broke back little kid with no job i understand. but if it was an older person… shame on him. ---
**Author:** ![spynn56](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spynn56/32/5638_2.png) [@spynn56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spynn56)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/5 "2008-10-19T17:40:04Z")
> [@Win ME vs Win XP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/win-me-vs-win-xp/18737/26): > > Whats the point of writing up a bill of sale agreement if you’re not even gonna use it? > > Take it to court. Isnt that why you went through the trouble of having two people sign an agreement? He painted over all the names/sigs in the bill of sale to post it online. Its like you saying… whats the point in having a license plate if you dont have any numbers on it. ---
**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/6 "2008-10-19T17:46:40Z")
^^ he meant since he has the bill of sale, he can easily use it and take the sitiuation to court. When you get the scrapyard to come pickup the car just tell them to bring a flatbed. Have the car on the street though becuase they just pull the car onto the bed it will gouge and scrap your driveway like crazy. ---
**Author:** ![s13Junkyard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13junkyard/32/5502_2.png) [@s13Junkyard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s13Junkyard)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/7 "2008-10-19T18:24:42Z")
if your scrapping the car a flat bed will pick it up right off the jackstands! so dont worry about that ive done that tons of times yay for killing 240sx’s ---
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/8 "2008-10-19T19:17:49Z")
> [@Win ME vs Win XP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/win-me-vs-win-xp/18737/26): > > Whats the point of writing up a bill of sale agreement if you’re not even gonna use it? > > Take it to court. Isnt that why you went through the trouble of having two people sign an agreement? It would cost more then what I got for the sale to get it in small claims court and taking time off work its not worth it. I posted the bill of sale for others to see Im not making anything up, pure facts. Thanks for the advice guys ---
**Author:** ![jacktherabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/22d042/32.png) [@jacktherabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jacktherabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/9 "2008-10-19T19:23:23Z")
so this car was going for scrap? if it was your daily driver i would loan you my stocks. but i dont want to scrap them. let me know ---
**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/10 "2008-10-21T20:56:55Z")
> [@FS:Xbox 360 + Games + a little more](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-xbox-360-games-a-little-more/18497/38): > > He painted over all the names/sigs in the bill of sale to post it online. Its like you saying… whats the point in having a license plate if you dont have any numbers on it. LOL. take your time. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/11 "2008-10-22T13:54:41Z")
Omg Never… where the hell have you been? ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/12 "2008-10-22T16:11:14Z")
He says in his coment on iTrader that you did not return his PMs and did not want to refund him for the broken strut. Is there something else about this story you are not telling us? ---
**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/13 "2008-10-22T16:30:05Z")
the plot thickens…kinda always wanted to say that. and I’ve been on maxbimmer/ziptied hahaha. Gotta show love for the son crew too. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.k/32/5670_2.png) [@Mr.K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.K)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/14 "2008-10-22T17:11:25Z")
Sadly, if someone has an opportunity to screw you, they’ll likely take it. I know I’m always too nice of a person and I end up getting shit all over because of it. That’s life, people are terrible, don’t trust anyone. ---
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/15 "2008-10-22T17:18:27Z")
> [@Maybe newman wont find this as lame as stunting?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/maybe-newman-wont-find-this-as-lame-as-stunting/18800/6): > > He says in his coment on iTrader that you did not return his PMs and did not want to refund him for the broken strut. Is there something else about this story you are not telling us? Thats the best part because he never once asked for a refund and the strut was not broken it was the front stock top mounts that had the problem and I informed him of it prior to the sale (Izzy\_domain as witness). I told him to swap out his and use them on the tokico’s (problem sloved) as for the p/m’s I replied to each and every one. At the end of the day he has two suspension setups I have none! I could put a negative on his Itrader but Im beyond the BS at this time, I’m just trying to make sure others dont get the same treatment or lack of! ---
**Author:** ![Z\_Roots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7feea3/32.png) [@Z\_Roots](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z_Roots)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/16 "2008-10-26T08:26:51Z")
So this is what my friends were talking about some guy owning me eh?? You forgot to mention in your little story here that I PM’d you information (that you ignored and didn’t respond to) in regards to my mechanic informing me that the bearings in the struts you sold me were gone, therefore the parts were UNFIT and would go against safety code - which is why he refused to install them. You didn’t have the common courtesy to even offer to take them back (which is what any honest trader on here would do) and you’re calling me a lowballer on UNFIT parts??? wow cry us all a river for your own irresponsibilities for everyone reading this - the truth always comes out eventually ---
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/17 "2008-10-26T08:40:00Z")
For the LAST TIME! Top mounts hold the bearings on the strut which is a stock piece. I told you to use the ones from yours stock suspension pior to sale because mine where rusted out. As for the p/m and REFUND LOL, I’ve already posted about that here. look Ive posted pics my car and bill of sale and…I still dont have a suspension, so the shady one Nark? ---
**Author:** ![JDM-KID](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdm-kid/32/5640_2.png) [@JDM-KID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDM-KID)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/18 "2008-10-26T08:45:31Z")
EDIT: who’s the shady one MARK? Ive posted FACTS! ---
**Author:** ![njd07](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9a28c/32.png) [@njd07](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/njd07)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/19 "2008-10-26T09:15:28Z")
> [@P-Shop request. (car color change)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/p-shop-request-car-color-change/18825/3): > > So this is what my friends were talking about some guy owning me eh?? You forgot to mention in your little story here that I PM’d you information (that you ignored and didn’t respond to) in regards to my mechanic informing me that the bearings in the struts you sold me were gone, therefore the parts were UNFIT and would go against safety code - which is why he refused to install them. You didn’t have the common courtesy to even offer to take them back (which is what any honest trader on here would do) and you’re calling me a lowballer on UNFIT parts??? wow cry us all a river for your own irresponsibilities > > for everyone reading this - the truth always comes out eventually bearings in struts = top mounts. sounds like you dont know shit about cars. you have to pay someone to install shocks…lmao ---
**Author:** ![Kengi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kengi/32/5575_2.png) [@Kengi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kengi)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289/20 "2008-10-26T10:18:21Z")
Well the objective of this thread has succeeded. I would never do business with you Z\_roots, you FAIL. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-all-watch-out-for-z-roots/119289.md?page=2)