# ATT blocks 4chan

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 27, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159 "2009-07-27T06:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/1 "2009-07-27T06:39:16Z")

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Granted, they apparently already unblocked them, but I’m interested in seeing what they do in response…

[http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=4chan](http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=4chan)

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/2 "2009-07-27T06:48:42Z")

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Ya this exploded on twitter last night. I have been following 4chan4ever and seeing what unfolds.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/3 "2009-07-27T06:49:14Z")

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same here.

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**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/4 "2009-07-27T07:03:41Z")

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what is 4chan?

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/5 "2009-07-27T07:09:08Z")

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> [@Locutus](#):
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> what is 4chan?

X2

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/6 "2009-07-27T07:09:10Z")

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> [@Locutus](#):
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> what is 4chan?

you’re fired

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/7 "2009-07-27T07:11:14Z")

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> [@Locutus](#):
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> what is 4chan?

> [@Joe](#):
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> you’re fired

seriously.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/8 "2009-07-27T07:11:58Z")

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knowing the crap that 4chan pulls they probably took the .img server offline themselves, then made a stink about it blaming AT&T, just to see what happens…

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/9 "2009-07-27T07:12:44Z")

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also, there is no fucking way that locutus doesn’t know what 4chan is.

Maybe this is a subtle hint that 4chan is about to be wiped away or something.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/10 "2009-07-27T07:19:07Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> also, there is no fucking way that locutus doesn’t know what 4chan is.

that’s what I’m thinkin

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/11 "2009-07-27T07:26:30Z")

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**[4chan4ever](http://twitter.com/4chan4ever)** AT&T Seemingly ends blockade of [#4CHAN](http://twitter.com/search?q=%234CHAN), but the wound is deep. We’ll be sending out info later in the day, this is so not over

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/12 "2009-07-27T07:31:45Z")

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hey /b/ I need your help. I accidentally 93MB of .rar files what should I do…is this dangerous ?

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**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/13 "2009-07-27T07:32:46Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> also, there is no fucking way that locutus doesn’t know what 4chan is.
> 
> Maybe this is a subtle hint that 4chan is about to be wiped away or something.

> [@Geehee](#):
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> that’s what I’m thinkin

:snky:

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/14 "2009-07-27T07:35:31Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> knowing the crap that 4chan pulls they probably took the .img server offline themselves, then made a stink about it blaming AT&T, just to see what happens…

No.

Look at this: [ImageShack - Best place for all of your image hosting and image sharing needs](http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2523/1248672053880.png)

This was an ACK attack, which causes problems not only for the directly attacked host, but for other users as well.Ordinarily, a TCP connection is set up when you send a SYN packet to a website, such as 4chan, and then 4chan responds with a ACK, and then you respond again with a SYN-ACK.  
Here is how an ACK attack works. I, the attacker, will send a SYN packet to 4chan, but I am pretending to be you, or your IP address. 4chan then sends an ACK packet to you, excepting a SYN-ACK in response. However, you did not initiate the connection, so you send a RST back to 4chan (or nothing at all, depending on your firewall settings). Then I do it again. And again. I effectively flood both you and 4chan with meaningless traffic. Your traffic problems are even worse, because if you have a firewall blocking the RST packets, then 4chan will send you 4 ACK packets (depending on configuration) for every SYN packet I send them. In this case, AT&T and other ISPs decided that the simplest solution to ending this DOS against their users was to block packets to and from 4chan (or a specific part of 4chan).

Just the internet community jumped all over this and saying its a breach of privacy and information and all that so this is why its gonna get funny.

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/15 "2009-07-27T08:44:24Z")

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moar

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/16 "2009-07-27T08:45:15Z")

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sauce

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/17 "2009-07-27T09:00:53Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> No.
> 
> Look at this: [ImageShack - Best place for all of your image hosting and image sharing needs](http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2523/1248672053880.png)
> 
> This was an ACK attack, which causes problems not only for the directly attacked host, but for other users as well.Ordinarily, a TCP connection is set up when you send a SYN packet to a website, such as 4chan, and then 4chan responds with a ACK, and then you respond again with a SYN-ACK.  
> Here is how an ACK attack works. I, the attacker, will send a SYN packet to 4chan, but I am pretending to be you, or your IP address. 4chan then sends an ACK packet to you, excepting a SYN-ACK in response. However, you did not initiate the connection, so you send a RST back to 4chan (or nothing at all, depending on your firewall settings). Then I do it again. And again. I effectively flood both you and 4chan with meaningless traffic. Your traffic problems are even worse, because if you have a firewall blocking the RST packets, then 4chan will send you 4 ACK packets (depending on configuration) for every SYN packet I send them. In this case, AT&T and other ISPs decided that the simplest solution to ending this DOS against their users was to block packets to and from 4chan (or a specific part of 4chan).
> 
> Just the internet community jumped all over this and saying its a breach of privacy and information and all that so this is why its gonna get funny.

SYN Cookies…

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-blocks-4chan/71159/18 "2009-07-27T09:15:32Z")

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> [@Locutus](#):
>
> what is 4chan?

If you have to ask then you don’t want to know…
