# ATT. Keyboard Racers what Pittspeed Grudge Match are you most interested in Next Year **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 29, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-keyboard-racers-what-pittspeed-grudge-match-are-you-most-interested-in-next-year/186509 "2006-11-29T22:02:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 138
**Author:** ![Swift](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swift/32/6024_2.png) [@Swift](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swift)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-keyboard-racers-what-pittspeed-grudge-match-are-you-most-interested-in-next-year/186509/138 "2006-12-06T19:50:35Z")
> [@My first loss... to a cop. TUP to cops slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-first-loss-to-a-cop-tup-to-cops/25777/55): > > yes i didnt say anything about gen I’s being better. i just said a built Gen I can and will hang with cammed ls1’s. i never said any bold statements. i’d expect a built gen I to hang with a stock ls1 with cam. it better beable to or else what a waste of money > > and from what i was told, talin’s car was a Lt4 with CC306 cam. he said 374whp i think. not a bad combo but definately not build. a 383 LT1/Lt4 with AFR heads and right cam will do mid bottom 11’s all day long. he was doin mid 12’s at 110. if it was a afr 383, thats pretty shitty > > yeah there is cammed only cars with supporting mods (tune/exhaust/gear/etc) doin 10s… in gutted race cars that wiegh anywhere from 3000-3200 lbs raceweight with driver. thats uber light. it is impresssive tho for just a cam to do that, BUT at that weight i could get a forged 350 small block doing those times. or easier with a 383+ > LS1’s have advantage of heads that flow better than most aftermarket 23 degree heads. but if you get a set of heads on a Lt1 or small block that flow as good if not better than LS1’s, with the right cam and tune it will run pretty darn well with that ls1. > > if i recall correctly your only 13.58. i’m 13.63. and i spun off the line a tad. let me play with my fuel and timing, as well as TCC lockup and i’ll definately be past you it was a golen engine built 383 w/ afr cnc’d lt4 heads and the lt4 intake manifold, 30 lb injectors, a pussy ass cam and it only put down 385rwhp, 412tq. with a better tune i think it might of been a much better car, plus that mid 12 slip was my first time ever on a track, and the last time for that car, it def had more in it --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/att-keyboard-racers-what-pittspeed-grudge-match-are-you-most-interested-in-next-year/186509)._