# ATTN: BMW noobs and or Benjamin

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 16, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357 "2010-02-16T05:04:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/21 "2010-02-16T08:35:37Z")

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> [@JClark"](#):
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> Because **I’d** much rather be driving on a Koni SA based setup than a Bilstein PSS, plus the whole customizable/upgradable part and resale. I sold my 2 yr old GC/Koni setup for $1300 when I bought it for $1700 (w/ c plates).

i have had konis and bilsteins and like like bilsteins better.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/22 "2010-02-16T08:37:32Z")

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> [@WTB: 5spd something or other for $1000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-5spd-something-or-other-for-1000/29361/2):
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> i have had konis and bilsteins and like like bilsteins better.

Many variables go into that, but to each his own. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/23 "2010-02-16T08:42:06Z")

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> [@WTB: 5spd something or other for $1000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-5spd-something-or-other-for-1000/29361/2):
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> i have had konis and bilsteins and like like bilsteins better.

Koni’s are only as good as the person adjusting them

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/24 "2010-02-16T08:46:16Z")

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> [@NEEDED: cingular phone asap!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/needed-cingular-phone-asap/29364/2):
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> Koni’s are only as good as the person adjusting them

Actually the adjustments are completely arbitrary like all other cheap shocks. Less rebound doesnt always mean less rebound. :lol

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/25 "2010-02-16T08:46:47Z")

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at least the ksports havent had the main bracket literally crack and fall off on a couple cars…one incident of failure of the DDM coilovers led to a severe rollover accident.

the worst problems people have with ksports is the camber plates binding up, and the dampers leaking because theyre junk

but like i said, apparently ksport has some 3rd party company in cali that’s doing the rebuilds on the shocks, i heard this from word of mouth and havent found any other info that substantiates that claim though.

the ksports are fine, give me a call when youre working on it eman, ill swing by and help ya out

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/26 "2010-02-16T09:24:28Z")

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> [@so i'm home from hawaii....... can i go back now?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-home-from-hawaii-can-i-go-back-now/29362/5):
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> Actually the adjustments are completely arbitrary like all other cheap shocks. Less rebound doesnt always mean less rebound. :lol

correct, but being able to feel that and adjust for the differences between shocks. Usually there is a middle 30-50% of valve adjustment that is actually usable.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/27 "2010-02-16T09:27:22Z")

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guys he’s driving up rt 7 and 787 to his meathead job, not fucking squeezing tenths out of WGI.

he just wants to dump his 7k car out so it looks good, while actually having some sort of damping.

trackfags need not apply :tongue

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/28 "2010-02-16T09:36:45Z")

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> [@NEEDED: cingular phone asap!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/needed-cingular-phone-asap/29364/6):
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> correct, but being able to feel that and adjust for the differences between shocks. Usually there is a middle 30-50% of valve adjustment that is actually usable.

No I mean the shocks’ adjustment is arbitrary. Put a Koni SA (or ANY cheap shock, Koni is the best of the cheap shocks IMO) on a shock dyno and move up through the adjustment range. Start at the softest and move your way to stiffer. As you adjust it stiffer, the shock wont always get stiffer. In some instances it actually gets softer, then jumps back up to stiffer. It’s why dialing in a setup on cheap shocks is a crapshoot at best but always unpredictable and inconsistent.

Below is relatively normal. The cheap shock graphs are all over the place. And if they are fine brand new, they def arent the first time you put weight on them.

> [@Another one of those Buffalo on the move threads...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-of-those-buffalo-on-the-move-threads/27410/21):
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> guys he’s driving up rt 7 and 787 to his meathead job, not fucking squeezing tenths out of WGI.
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> he just wants to dump his 7k car out so it looks good, while actually having some sort of damping.
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> trackfags need not apply :tongue

I was probably more picky about my adjustable damping on the street than on the track when I’ve had them on DDs. The reason you ricers’/hardparkers’ cars ride so dumpy is you either have shit shocks or dont have them adjusted properly.

Springs are a small part of the equation. You can run stupid stiff springs with good shocks and have it ride better than progressive marshmallow springs on dumpy shocks.

Trackfag or just a street driver, you can tell the difference.

Just my $.02. I’ll shut up now.

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/29 "2010-02-16T09:39:46Z")

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No some one needs to bash fluffy Mcguardrail

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/30 "2010-02-16T09:45:42Z")

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> [@Another one of those Buffalo on the move threads...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-of-those-buffalo-on-the-move-threads/27410/21):
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> guys he’s driving up rt 7 and 787 to his meathead job, not fucking squeezing tenths out of WGI.
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> he just wants to dump his 7k car out so it looks good, while actually having some sort of damping.
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> trackfags need not apply :tongue

this!!!

rep but i cant.

this weekend i will have it on the lift and i will take it out. if its dead, ill buy some new ones. might as well replace both the rears.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/31 "2010-02-16T09:46:14Z")

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its not my fault Ricer McVinylwrap and his E30 driving sidekick feel the need to push his race-y ways on us measly hardparkers.

ps: jk to jeff, jesse you’re still gay, get your nonsensical shock dyno graphs out of this thread or ill ban you

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/32 "2010-02-16T09:47:21Z")

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> [@For Rent: Apartment in Buffalo, CHEAP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-rent-apartment-in-buffalo-cheap/29363/3):
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> No some one needs to bash fluffy Mcguardrail

benny just pmed me and told me u are getting stabbed. :hug

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/33 "2010-02-16T09:48:17Z")

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> [@For Rent: Apartment in Buffalo, CHEAP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-rent-apartment-in-buffalo-cheap/29363/4):
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> its not my fault Ricer McVinylwrap and his E30 driving sidekick feel the need to push his race-y ways on us measly hardparkers.
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> **ps: jk to jeff, jesse you’re still gay, get your nonsensical shock dyno graphs out of this thread or ill ban you**

omg i just spit out my oatmeal!!!

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/34 "2010-02-16T09:48:28Z")

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I have purpose-built a small hat for my erect penis with perfectly angled razor blades to that I may not only stab Sean, but simultaneously fuck his stab wounds.

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/35 "2010-02-16T09:49:45Z")

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is this y he is always telling me about his bloody pewps?

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/36 "2010-02-16T09:50:51Z")

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that is a direct cause of his own fetishes. I will let him chime in on that, however it has nothing to do with my erect-o-shank

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/37 "2010-02-16T09:52:20Z")

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Mr fizzle while I find your “erectoshank” to be comical I do not find it feasible

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/38 "2010-02-16T09:52:38Z")

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anal fissures, sean has them

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/39 "2010-02-16T09:53:20Z")

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Aaaand I’m out.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/40 "2010-02-16T09:56:32Z")

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haha \<3

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