# ATTN: BMW noobs and or Benjamin **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 16, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357 "2010-02-16T05:04:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/61 "2010-02-16T13:34:58Z")
You guys missing the fact that he already has ksports? He’s spending like a hundred bucks for a new shock and retaining theide height he wants. You guys are suggesting he spend ten times that just because one damper on his existing suspension, which has lasted several thousand miles already, has potentially failed? I mean, they’re junk…people don’t buy ksports to get top of the line stuff, but there’s nothing dangerous about them, and they allow serious dumpage. Which is the only thing the OP, or anybody who isn’t trying to get everything out of a car, should care about. In my case I bought chinese coilovers over, say, a GC kit simply because a used set is all I could afford, and doesn’t come with any warranty. The stupid chinese coilovers I bought allowed me to pick any spring rate, type, or length, come with a two year warranty, and honestly…I’m probably going to hit something again this year :rofl ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/62 "2010-02-16T13:40:40Z")
Benny I swear if you dont keep your Obamamods talk to yourself I will bury you alive in feces. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/63 "2010-02-16T13:46:19Z")
Check what section you’re in muhfucka, this is the land of obamamods ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/64 "2010-02-16T14:16:01Z")
> [@Another one of those Buffalo on the move threads...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-of-those-buffalo-on-the-move-threads/27410/21): > > **guys he’s driving up rt 7 and 787 to his meathead job, not fucking squeezing tenths out of WGI.** > > he just wants to dump his 7k car out so it looks good, while actually having some sort of damping. > > trackfags need not apply :tongue :rofl hahahaha > [@No A/C? help inside please...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-a-c-help-inside-please/29369/4): > > As for E36 being a pu$$y magnet… Maybe for big broad shouldered Germans that answer to “Helga”… > > And some of their women too :rofl so true ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/65 "2010-02-16T15:05:31Z")
> [@Opie and Anothony fired! (again)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anothony-fired-again/29356/17): > > **You guys missing the fact that he already has ksports?** Yes, I’m trying to fit in more here, so I skip unnecessary details like the original post, etc and just respond as if I am the authority on the subject… ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/66 "2010-02-16T15:13:47Z")
Man I just go to the last page usually and post some thing completely irrelevant. Ponies ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/67 "2010-02-16T15:39:29Z")
DONT GET K SPORTS U WONT LIKE THEM ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/68 "2010-02-16T18:34:32Z")
If you’re going to run the car off the bumpstops you need a set of coilovers/dampers designed to run that low. Running dampers in the bottom 15% of it’s travel constantly will overheat and kill them fi the valving is not meant for it, doesn’t matter if it’s a dumpy ksport or baller moton. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/69 "2010-02-16T18:37:09Z")
pff logic is for suckas the ksports are adjusted by the threaded body, so doesnt the piston have the same amount of travel, in the same place? ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/70 "2010-02-16T18:37:34Z")
> [@Put a name to that face.....and win a prize.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-a-name-to-that-face-and-win-a-prize/29377/8): > > If you’re going to run the car off the bumpstops you need a set of coilovers/dampers designed to run that low. Running dampers in the bottom 15% of it’s travel constantly will overheat and kill them fi the valving is not meant for it, doesn’t matter if it’s a dumpy ksport or baller moton. Great point and information, but I think OP has already made up his mind. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/71 "2010-02-16T18:40:21Z")
if the shock is, say 6" long and the bracket that the shock threads into is say, 10" long. for an overall max length of 16" if you thread the shock body into the bracket, to make it, say 14" overall length for a 2" drop…the actual shock portion is still 6", and still moves throughout the same range, no? ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/72 "2010-02-16T19:03:56Z")
> [@Want a cheap euro. vacation?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/want-a-cheap-euro-vacation/29348/17): > > if the shock is, say 6" long > > and the bracket that the shock threads into is say, 10" long. > > for an overall max length of 16" > > if you thread the shock body into the bracket, to make it, say 14" overall length for a 2" drop…the actual shock portion is still 6", and still moves throughout the same range, no? numbers aside, yeah you got the gist of it. Some setups allow you to drop the damper body in a mount or spindle and lower the ride height while keeping the damper valve in the optimal range. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/73 "2010-02-16T19:09:41Z")
my dumpy chinese ones do too bad theyll probably start leaking within 10k miles :rofl ☹ they use larger diameter shock piston than stock…but with a smaller shaft…any idea why? I’d think both would be bigger to support much higher than stock spring rates/forces amirite? ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/74 "2010-02-16T19:57:37Z")
> [@Put a name to that face.....and win a prize.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-a-name-to-that-face-and-win-a-prize/29377/8): > > If you’re going to run the car off the bumpstops you need a set of coilovers/dampers designed to run that low. Running dampers in the bottom 15% of it’s travel constantly will overheat and kill them fi the valving is not meant for it, doesn’t matter if it’s a dumpy ksport or baller moton. Dont bother, cars dont need functioning shocks. This has been established. > [@bennyfizzle"](#): > > they use larger diameter shock piston than stock…but with a smaller shaft…any idea why? > > I’d think both would be bigger to support much higher than stock spring rates/forces amirite? Because they’re dumpy Chinese coilovers. People make too big a deal out of piston diameter. It’s not a huge deal on cars. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/75 "2010-02-16T20:08:43Z")
maybe you could, idk, provide some technical insight to my question for once. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/76 "2010-02-16T20:13:48Z")
Why? Every time I hint at technical info there’s a backlash. You can all go fuck yourselves. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/77 "2010-02-16T20:36:35Z")
because this time I’m asking for it, duh ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/78 "2010-02-16T20:40:52Z")
I took my shocks out and put bricks in ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/79 "2010-02-17T07:10:28Z")
> [@Opie and Anothony fired! (again)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opie-and-anothony-fired-again/29356/16): > > Umm So why bother with Coilovers? – Just buy lowering springs and some good dampers > > I Many of us have been down the road of buying crappy parts to save money and then end up spending money on the good stuff later on. So … if you really need and want coilovers, save a little more and spend money on something that will actually last, work and if desired be able to be sold at the end to get some money back. > > Glad the “asshats” could help > [@No A/C? help inside please...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/no-a-c-help-inside-please/29369/4): > > If you are thinking of using this car at the track EVER buy the c/os that actually work and you’ll save yourself a lot of trouble… > > It’s not a 50% price increase we’re talking about here, more like 15-20% if you find a good used set of coilovers. This is more than you’d lose selling / shipping a cheaper set and then trying to source one that actually works for more serious use later on. > > As an engineer I thought you’d appreciate the dyno information Jesse pointed out- it helped point me in the right direction. > > Good luck. > > As for E36 being a pu$$y magnet… Maybe for big broad shouldered Germans that answer to “Helga”… > > And some of their women too fellas, the car was purchased with these shitty coilovers in it!!! i did not buy them. if i had my way, i would have bought the PSS9’s ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357/80 "2010-02-17T19:33:01Z")
> [@Really happymeal...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/really-happymeal/29378/10): > > Why? Every time I hint at technical info there’s a backlash. You can all go fuck yourselves. :rofl I feel your pain [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-bmw-noobs-and-or-benjamin/250357.md?page=5)