# Attn: Euro car owners. There's a new shop in town. Details inside... **URL:** \ **Category:** Vendor Marketplace\ **Created:** [September 11, 2007, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188 "2007-09-11T10:28:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/1 "2007-09-11T10:28:32Z")
First off, I know there’s a few of you on here who already know me, and I feel obliged to thank you folks first, as it’s been your patronage that’s convinced me to take the plunge and open up a proper place. Now, for those who don’t, here’s a bit of useful information. I’ve been working on cars for most of my life, starting with a World of Outlaw Sprint car back in 1982 (yes, I was 12). Through the years I worked on specializing more and more, and it’s all culminating now. Black Forest Motorsport specializes in later-model European and Exotic automobile repair, service and upgrades. We already have a decent amount of diagnostic equipment, but as folks in the business know, diagnostic equipment purchases are never-ending. The shop will initially be equipped with 3 2-post lifts, tire mounting and balancing machines that can handle most large low-profile tires without touching the rim, and a host of other typical shop appliances. We are also a New York State registered repair and inspection shop. I should have the inspection equipment within the first few weeks of opening. At any given time when you walk in, you may find a couple of 2.7 turbo Audis in the shop, while other times, you may see a Lambo, Ferrari, Lotus or Maserati. Also, during the Winter, starting sometime in December, we’re going to be bulding an 800hp Ultima GTR for a customer of mine. Should be able to easily dispatch just about anything within 150 mile radius that’s street-legal. The rest of the important details: **Opening date** Monday October 1st **Location:** 4585 Genesee St Cheektowaga, NY 14225 (across from the NOCO at the intersection of Genesee and Holtz/Sonwil) **Rates:** $75/hr for mechanical work $85/hr for diagnostic $120/hr for Exotic (Lamborghini, Ferrari, Lotus, Maserati, etc.) _we’re offering $5/hr off for NYSpeed forum members for a limited time_ **Contact:** Right this second, I don’t have a phone number for the land line, as I won’t have it for a couple of weeks (716) 807-8260 - cell [service@blackforestmotorsport.com](mailto:service@blackforestmotorsport.com) Hope to see at least a few of you folks there over the coming months. I’m planning on having an open house/bbq thing at some point in October, and will announce it on this forum when I have the dates nailed down. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/2 "2007-09-11T10:30:28Z")
you sound like a great guy with good experience and lots of supporters. best of luck in filling an empty spot in the local market 🙂 :tup: ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/3 "2007-09-11T10:47:16Z")
Best of luck with everything Jason! ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/4 "2007-09-11T11:00:17Z")
not a fan of stangs, but road racing is road racing Just out of curiosity how much do you rent the T2 and FA (toyota) for? ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/5 "2007-09-11T11:04:20Z")
congrats on the new place > we’re going to be bulding an 800hp Ultima GTR for a customer of mine. Should be able to easily dispatch just about anything within 150 mile radius that’s street-legal. thats a pretty bold statement there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/6 "2007-09-11T11:07:54Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:5,topic:35188"”] thats a pretty bold statement there 🙂 [/quote] 800 hp and 2200 pounds should be good for mid to high 9’s and that’s pretty quick. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/7 "2007-09-11T11:12:18Z")
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:4,topic:35188"”] not a fan of stangs, but road racing is road racing Just out of curiosity how much do you rent the T2 and FA (toyota) for? [/quote] Eh? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you’re thinking of that road racing outfit down in Florida? Nope, I have nothing to do with them. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/8 "2007-09-11T11:13:53Z")
congrats. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/9 "2007-09-11T11:15:34Z")
ahhhh… [http://blackforestmotorsports.com/](http://blackforestmotorsports.com/) [http://blackforestmotorsport.com/](http://blackforestmotorsport.com/) ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/10 "2007-09-11T11:16:27Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:5,topic:35188"”] congrats on the new place thats a pretty bold statement there 🙂 [/quote] Thanks, and yeah, I know. And to be honest, there’s probably other “street legal” cars out there that are quicker in a straight line, but none are likely to be as well-rounded as this one should be (stopping, turning, etc.) I’ve been around fast cars long enough to know that there’s **always** something faster/quicker. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/11 "2007-09-11T11:18:18Z")
[quote=“EvoMR,post:6,topic:35188"”] 800 hp and 2200 pounds should be good for mid to high 9’s and that’s pretty quick. [/quote] Yeah, Ultima’s demo car just cracked a 9.90 and that’s with a 740hp setup. I’m hoping that my customer will allow some instrumented runs after it’s complete (meaning a few trips down at NYI) ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/12 "2007-09-11T11:23:49Z")
thats cool, i was just wondering is all. sounds like a nice place for people that cant seem to find a repair shop for they’re exotics. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/13 "2007-09-11T11:27:28Z")
G/L man :tup: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/14 "2007-09-11T11:36:31Z")
Best of luck with the venture - I’m looking forward to seeing more pics of the shop and the exotics within. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/15 "2007-09-11T12:22:30Z")
why more $$ for exotics? not bitching, just curious… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/16 "2007-09-11T12:25:17Z")
probably just more tedious to work on I assume ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/17 "2007-09-11T12:34:22Z")
[quote=“bracketracer”"] Also, during the Winter, starting sometime in December, we’re going to be bulding an 800hp Ultima GTR for a customer of mine. [/quote] Sounds like a cool project. GM Gen III/IV I hope?? ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/18 "2007-09-11T12:51:08Z")
[quote=“Viper966,post:15,topic:35188"”] why more $$ for exotics? not bitching, just curious… [/quote] Supply and demand is some of it. Made in Italy by people who are more concerned about styling than accessibility is another part of it. Plus, making up new swear words costs a lot of brainpower, and I charge for that. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/19 "2007-09-11T12:53:22Z")
[quote=“J&J,post:17,topic:35188"”] Sounds like a cool project. GM Gen III/IV I hope?? [/quote] Crate engine from Ultima’s builder of choice. Here are some specs: 800 hp @7000 rpm, 665 ft. lbs. torque @5400 rpm, Aluminum block, dry sump, Brodix BD 12 deg. aluminum cyl. heads, 11.0 comp., Pro Systems Track 1 carburetor ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188/20 "2007-09-11T13:22:18Z")
Good luck Jason. 🙂 [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-euro-car-owners-theres-a-new-shop-in-town-details-inside/35188.md?page=2)