# Attn: John McCain **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836 "2008-09-26T18:37:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/1 "2008-09-26T18:37:24Z")
You can’t step into the ring with Ali just because you think you can box. ---
**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/2 "2008-09-26T18:44:01Z")
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**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/3 "2008-09-26T18:51:00Z")
The government running our health care. That would be great, since government workers are so motivated and efficient… ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/4 "2008-09-26T18:56:38Z")
weak as an AUTO vette ---
**Author:** ![paNX2K\_SE-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dfb087/32.png) [@paNX2K\_SE-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/paNX2K_SE-R)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/5 "2008-09-26T20:40:30Z")
> [@need some spots to go wheelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-spots-to-go-wheelin/37958/37): > > The government running our health care. That would be great, since government workers are so motivated and efficient… X2 ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/6 "2008-09-27T03:55:31Z")
![http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/homeless-men-are-like-obama.jpg](http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/homeless-men-are-like-obama.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/7 "2008-09-27T06:23:01Z")
You seriously quote Leon Trotsky in your signature on Pittspeed? LOL? ---
**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/8 "2008-09-27T06:49:01Z")
Man, you should be going to MIT or something. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/9 "2008-09-27T07:41:49Z")
> [@FS/FT: \*SOLD 93 Civic Si/LS SOLD\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ft-sold-93-civic-si-ls-sold/34548/74): > > You seriously quote Leon Trotsky in your signature on Pittspeed? > > LOL? if Lenin had his way, Trotskyism would have prevailed over Stalinism after Lenin’s death, and the twentieth century would have played out much differently. Trotsky believed in the ideology; Stalin was just a dictator. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/10 "2008-09-27T07:49:24Z")
> [@need some spots to go wheelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-spots-to-go-wheelin/37958/37): > > The government running our health care. That would be great, since government workers are so motivated and efficient… as opposed to your private health insurance, which will just let you die in the name of profit. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/11 "2008-09-27T08:34:44Z")
> [@Sold my small, nimble and efficient Brittish made penis enlarger for...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-my-small-nimble-and-efficient-brittish-made-penis-enlarger-for/38066/7): > > as opposed to your private health insurance, which will just let you die in the name of profit. Are you advocating a bigger goverment? That doesn’t sound very libertarian to me. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/12 "2008-09-27T08:54:30Z")
> [@Happy Birthday Jenheartsyou!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-jenheartsyou/38029/43): > > Are you advocating a bigger goverment? That doesn’t sound very libertarian to me. I dont suppose it is. But private, for profit healthcare = lose. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/13 "2008-09-27T09:13:27Z")
I’m not saying private healthcare/insurance is fantastic and doesn’t have a load of problems, but I can’t come up with a scenario where government provided care/insurance would be superior. However, I would need to see a detailed plan of the finances and layout of the plan before completely dismissing it. I just foresee a drop in the quality of the care that I would receive. If you’ve ever dealt with trying to clear something up with a health insurance company, imagine doing the same with a government worker on the other end of the phone that gives even less of a crap. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/14 "2008-09-27T09:42:29Z")
> [@Sold my small, nimble and efficient Brittish made penis enlarger for...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-my-small-nimble-and-efficient-brittish-made-penis-enlarger-for/38066/14): > > I’m not saying private healthcare/insurance is fantastic and doesn’t have a load of problems, but I can’t come up with a scenario where government provided care/insurance would be superior. However, I would need to see a detailed plan of the finances and layout of the plan before completely dismissing it. I just foresee a drop in the quality of the care that I would receive. If you’ve ever dealt with trying to clear something up with a health insurance company, imagine doing the same with a government worker on the other end of the phone that gives even less of a crap. Look how well the Medicare and Medicaid systems work :rolleyes: Try dealing with those assholes and see how much gets done. It is like you said, they care even less. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/15 "2008-09-27T10:30:47Z")
> if Lenin had his way, Trotskyism would have prevailed over Stalinism after Lenin’s death, and the twentieth century would have played out much differently. Trotsky believed in the ideology; Stalin was just a dictator. Just LOL…this definitely isn’t the forum to have this discussion, but you’re way out there. Are you a communist? ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/16 "2008-09-27T11:23:37Z")
> [@Sold my small, nimble and efficient Brittish made penis enlarger for...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-my-small-nimble-and-efficient-brittish-made-penis-enlarger-for/38066/14): > > I’m not saying private healthcare/insurance is fantastic and doesn’t have a load of problems, but I can’t come up with a scenario where government provided care/insurance would be superior. However, I would need to see a detailed plan of the finances and layout of the plan before completely dismissing it. I just foresee a drop in the quality of the care that I would receive. If you’ve ever dealt with trying to clear something up with a health insurance company, imagine doing the same with a government worker on the other end of the phone that gives even less of a crap. watch Sicko. Yeah its a Michael Moore film but it is a pretty accurate representation of how it works in Canada/Europe. It CAN be done correctly. ---
**Author:** ![04Mustang232](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/df788c/32.png) [@04Mustang232](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/04Mustang232)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/17 "2008-09-27T11:35:11Z")
doctors and hospitals have to make big money, or there is no incentive to go through 8 or 12 years of school to get the degree. If you like free heathcare, move to canada. O wait, thats why canadians move here, because our doctors are actually good at what they do. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/18 "2008-09-27T12:33:33Z")
> [@Where to find new/used hockey equipment?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-to-find-new-used-hockey-equipment/38041/10): > > watch Sicko. Yeah its a Michael Moore film but it is a pretty accurate representation of how it works in Canada/Europe. It CAN be done correctly. Have you seen the taxes in these countries? i am sure we could all give the gov 1/2 of our paychecks and they could get a ton of cool shit done. private\>goverment on anything ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/19 "2008-09-27T13:44:28Z")
> [@Swarzkopf"](#): > > Just LOL…this definitely isn’t the forum to have this discussion, but you’re way out there. > > Are you a communist? I am not now, nor have I ever been. I’m big on the principles of social democracy, which is basically Socialism Lite. Fair market capitalism, a safety net for all citizens, repeal of Free Trade agreements. Delete the way out environmental stuff and pacifism from the Green Party platform and you have my beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836/20 "2008-09-27T13:49:13Z")
I’ve been to Canada\Europe. I am not interested in making the US more like them. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-john-mccain/199836.md?page=2)