# Attn: NYSpeed cigar buffs... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 25, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017 "2006-09-25T20:55:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/41 "2006-09-27T05:41:17Z")
> **[Shop Cigars, Humidors & More at Cigars International](https://www.cigarsinternational.com/)** > > Shop premium cigars, humidors, samplers, pipes, pipe tobacco, and accessories at Cigars International. Huge cigar selection at great prices everyday. there is a friday night fights section where they pair up 5 packs of 2 cigars. a lot of whats been mentioned here is in that section :tup: i really enjoy the Torano 1916 Cameroon Robusto ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/42 "2006-09-27T05:43:12Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > i really enjoy the Torano 1916 Cameroon Robusto Word. I haven’t had a Torano I didn’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evil_stang/32/7256_2.png) [@Evil\_Stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evil_Stang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/43 "2006-09-27T14:04:36Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > Age improves all cigars when properly kept. If you have ever smoked a cigar during the sick period you know what I am talking about. > > Mild cigars will mellow even more with age and strong cigars will smooth out and not be so harsh. I try to keep my at 65 degrees 65% humidity and I haven’t had a problem. I’ll disagree with you on that, most NC don’t have a sick period, unless you consider the jet lag the get from shipping a sick period, and making a mild cigar more mellow is pointless. I had a lot of NC’s at one pont, 5-6 yers ago, probably about 500-600 untill I upped my intake to 2-3 cigars a day, and there is very little difference in an aged and not aged NC, huge difference in Cubans. But you also need to determine what you consider aging. a few months is not aging. A few years is. I have some 01 SLR A’s the are soming awesome right now and some 02 Black Prince’s that probably have reaced their peek right now, Just got some 05 Cuaba’s that are gognit o need at lest another year. also have so NC’s with a few years on them that are almsot void of any flavor becasue they were mild to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/44 "2006-09-27T14:15:52Z")
The sick period of a cigar is where it starts to ferment. Thats what tobacco does. It gives off an amonia odor for a few weeks as it begins to ferment especially if it is a fresh box. If you mean to tell me that tobacco in Nicaragua and Cuba are so different that one doesn’t ferment and the other does, then I think you are crazy. Yeah it probably is pointless to make a mild cigar more mellow…but I wouldn’t smoke anything until it had some age on it. I too have some '01 SLR Cubans that I have yet to smoke…thats funny. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/45 "2006-09-27T14:21:40Z")
> [@Guy from ClubStogie.com](#): > > Ok I’ll weigh in a little… does aging help your cigar… YES! > > Is it required… not really > > Is it worth it… a qualified HELL YEAH! > > Yes the purpose of aging your sticks is to end up with a better cigar in the future. Not only does it rid your cigar of any “ammonia” like flavors it might have while young, it also develops the flavors to their maximum potential. > > I have personally sampled many different vitola’s at 1, 3, 5, 10, even 20 years of age on 'em. And I can say that most if not ALL cigars get better with more age. Yes, there is a debate on when certain types of cigars reach their full potential but I can honestly say some of the best cigars I’ve ever tasted were over 20+ years old. > > So in quick summation… aging is good. Smoke a young Monte 2 which some consider a benchmark cigar. Then smoke a Monte 2 with 5 years on it and tell me its not 100% better. Then smoke one with 10 years on it and you will be amazed at how much the cigar improves. > > I’ve actually seen certain vitola’s gain strength with age. I think you’re confusing “strength” with “harshness” maybe. And the same would apply to more mild or medium bodied sticks. Over time some can actually increase their strength,flavor,richness, etc etc. > > Overall buying aged stock or aging your own is the way to go. Just seeing how a cigar progresses over time is fun in and of itself. And you don’t have to do it for 10 years if you don’t want. Hell a cigar that’s aged even 2-3 years can sometimes be significantly better … ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evil_stang/32/7256_2.png) [@Evil\_Stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evil_Stang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/46 "2006-09-27T14:49:48Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > The sick period of a cigar is where it starts to ferment. Thats what tobacco does. It gives off an amonia odor for a few weeks as it begins to ferment especially if it is a fresh box. If you mean to tell me that tobacco in Nicaragua and Cuba are so different that one doesn’t ferment and the other does, then I think you are crazy. > > Yeah it probably is pointless to make a mild cigar more mellow…but I wouldn’t smoke anything until it had some age on it. > > I too have some '01 SLR Cubans that I have yet to smoke…thats funny. fermetning is done long before the cigars are rolled, and i have yet to have a decent NC with a sick perior other than stuff i got in the winter that took more than a few days to ship and got dry. Try those SLR’s they are smoking aweome rigt now. Mine aer froma Cab, only have 2-3 left. I’ll let you knwo next time i buy a cab (have to make some room on the CC) and do a split. Cheapest way to do it. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/47 "2006-09-27T17:08:42Z")
I got a few the other day. Picked up an Onyx, Romeo y Julieta and a Trilogy (Native Camaroon). Got them from the rez. I am trying differant ones to see what I like. The Onyx are decent, but have a sort of strange tast to them…haven’t tried the other 2 yet. Oh, if a cigar sais “exported from cuba” on it does that mean it is a real cuban? I tried a few Cuban Delights…they were realy good, but wasnt sure if they were really Cuban. The other’s (Romeo/Trilogy) are made in Dominican Republic. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evil_stang/32/7256_2.png) [@Evil\_Stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evil_Stang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/48 "2006-09-27T18:13:51Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I got a few the other day. Picked up an Onyx, Romeo y Julieta and a Trilogy (Native Camaroon). Got them from the rez. I am trying differant ones to see what I like. The Onyx are decent, but have a sort of strange tast to them…haven’t tried the other 2 yet. > > Oh, if a cigar sais “exported from cuba” on it does that mean it is a real cuban? I tried a few Cuban Delights…they were realy good, but wasnt sure if they were really Cuban. The other’s (Romeo/Trilogy) are made in Dominican Republic. a lot of stuff will Say Cuban on it, but they aren’t Cuban. about 90% of the “Cuban” cigar you se are fake, that number increases to %99.5 if your in Mexico, teh Carribean, or any other resort/vacation area. There is a large amount of fake Cubans being sold in Cuba as well. Unless it’s a pre-embargo, whcih will cost a few thousand dollars for a box you cannot import them to the US, $50,000 fine and 10 years in prison, doens’ matter if it’;s 1 cigar or 1000. The onyx is a maduro wapper as opposed to a coneticut shade, criollo, shade grown, sun grown, cameroon or one of the other different types of wrappers, which is why it may taste odd to you ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/49 "2006-09-27T19:05:31Z")
Cuban Delights are certainly not Cuban. The only way I know to get them is to know people who know good sources that provide legit product. You will also see a lot of “Cuban Seed” tobacco or “pre-embargo” Cubans…usually it doesn’t mean a whole lot. ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/50 "2006-09-28T08:29:46Z")
i’d reccomend fat jake’s as a place to go to get good cigars. it’s in hamburg on buffalo st. the owner (matt) is a great guy and extremely knowledgable. his prices are reasonable and he takes extremely good care of his regulars. i’ve never tried a hookah, but i hear really good things about this mediterranean place on the corner of bidwell and elmwood. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/51 "2006-09-28T18:57:37Z")
I smoked the Romeo y Julieta today…it was really good! Definatly going to be buying more of them. Are Acid any good? Someone told me they are. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/52 "2006-09-28T19:51:43Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I smoked the Romeo y Julieta today…it was really good! Definatly going to be buying more of them. Are Acid any good? Someone told me they are. No me gusta Acid. But to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evil_stang/32/7256_2.png) [@Evil\_Stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evil_Stang)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/53 "2006-09-29T08:40:03Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I smoked the Romeo y Julieta today…it was really good! Definatly going to be buying more of them. Are Acid any good? Someone told me they are. Try the RYJ Reverva Real, lot better than the regular RYJ ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/54 "2006-09-29T08:43:23Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > I smoked the Romeo y Julieta today…it was really good! Definatly going to be buying more of them. Are Acid any good? Someone told me they are. Some people love them(like me) and others just don’t like flavored cigars at all. I would definitely recommend at least trying one to see if you like it. If you have an interest in trying them then try something like a blondie or a nasty. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evil_stang/32/7256_2.png) [@Evil\_Stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evil_Stang)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/55 "2006-09-29T20:12:55Z")
Acid brand are in fused with different herbs and stuff, not my cup of tea, but some people like the,. They are made by Drew Estates adn are a quality smoke, but flavored. I like tobacco flavored cigars. Tryone though, you might liek it, if yo do buy on e or any other flavored cigar don’t keep them with your regular cigars. Lars Teetans are another old brand simular to the Acid’s ---
**Author:** ![dezod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dezod/32/7467_2.png) [@dezod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dezod)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/56 "2006-09-30T13:03:46Z")
Try some of the Romeo & Juliet line. They are much more mild, but still a good smoke. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/57 "2006-09-30T15:00:01Z")
So just an update on my cigar adventures, I have tried a Comacho and it was pretty damn tasty (thnx Rick) and also and AVO which was much lighter but equally as good. ---
**Author:** ![Xrunner](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xrunner/32/7390_2.png) [@Xrunner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xrunner)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/58 "2006-09-30T16:16:22Z")
If you like Mild Cigars… my fav is ACO Priamides. Made in the Dominican Republic. $9.00 ---
**Author:** ![Rovert](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rovert/32/7478_2.png) [@Rovert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rovert)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/59 "2006-09-30T18:34:14Z")
im with shockwave179, im a acid fan i usualy go up to fat jakes in hamburg- the guy that runs it Matt is a realy cool guy… a little pricy but worth it or if ur near the rez DEFF go to big indian… biggest humidor around here i think. anything u want they have. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017/60 "2006-09-30T23:30:44Z")
> [@Xrunner](#): > > If you like Mild Cigars… my fav is ACO Priamides. Made in the Dominican Republic. $9.00 i’ll check them out, i actually tend to migrate towards stronger/fuller bodied smokes but the mild ones are good at times. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-nyspeed-cigar-buffs/18017.md?page=4)