# Attn: Pittspeed conservative sackriders **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 13, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654 "2005-10-13T12:08:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/41 "2005-10-15T03:30:57Z")
> [@taco](#): > > Hey you sissy liberals, get your jollies now while you can. Bush’s approval rating is going to skyrocket up now after he drums up support for the war with that scripted interview with those soldiers. scripted interviews hahahaha…why not ask us yes i am over there right now…oooooh wait your to much of a pussy to enlist…over 90% of us serving over here beleive in what we do…but you would never know that unless you were here… any media source can swing the results anyway the see fit… so until ou enlist and come over here please do not make a bold statement saying what WE feel. trust me we bitch…but you have no ideas what we have to endure on a daily basis… but how woould you understand you just sit at home and listen to the media… ---
**Author:** ![HaNnIBaL64](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hannibal64/32/5954_2.png) [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/42 "2005-10-15T05:19:42Z")
> [@slowcamaro](#): > > scripted interviews hahahaha…why not ask us yes i am over there right now…oooooh wait your to much of a pussy to enlist…over 90% of us serving over here beleive in what we do…but you would never know that unless you were here… any media source can swing the results anyway the see fit… > > so until ou enlist and come over here please do not make a bold statement saying what WE feel. > > trust me we bitch…but you have no ideas what we have to endure on a daily basis… > > but how woould you understand you just sit at home and listen to the media… while i feel for you being over there and such and i would gladly enlist if i could at the moment. From what my bro tells me 90% of enlisted people hate Bush. And thats coming from an enlisted person at fort drum. :dunno: just another side to teh story i guess ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/43 "2005-10-15T05:32:52Z")
> [@delsloow](#): > > wow… just wow. > > Have you ever heard of a sample selection size? Do you think the statisticians that work for the polling firms just go, “uhh yah, let me call up 10 people and that will be our sample size.” Statisticians job is to eliminate bias from a sample, your ‘problem’ has been known for thousands of years. You wow. just wow. I used 10 as an example. Obviously. Next time you open your mouth thenk about what you are about to say. Obviosly I know that 10 people from the coast of maine were NOT randomly sampled. I was trying to make the point thats they could have asked anybody, gotten their information anywhere, but I personally was not asked. Therefore some (or a big chunk of the country) was not accounted for in this poll. :jerkit: and shut up. This was such a stupid argument. Why should I have to explain something everybody else understood? ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/44 "2005-10-15T05:42:22Z")
🍺 this thread still sucks ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/45 "2005-10-15T07:32:02Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > As far as approval ratings are concerned. . . I was not asked for my approval… Therefore ‘40% of America’ could be 4 of any 10 random people from the coast of Maine for all we know. Approval ratings are retarded. IMO. but it isnt, and thats a pathetic excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/46 "2005-10-15T07:35:57Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > but it isnt, and thats a pathetic excuse. There were no excuses in that post. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/47 "2005-10-15T07:41:40Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > There were no excuses in that post. I’ll bet you wouldnt have posted that same response if that 40% were an 85%. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/48 "2005-10-15T07:49:30Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > you can’t just force liberal bullshit out there and expect people to swallow it… you do realize that the amount of soldiers that died to date in this war cannot even hold a candle to vietnam of 60k and ww1 and 2 with like 110k and 440k… so that’s not really a shocking number… what is the relevance of comparing it to other wars? 2000 dead American kids is still 2,000 dead American kids. sorry the number doesnt hold enough shock value for you to give a fuck. 1 dead soldier is 1 too many when the war is unjust and pointless. > fuck, the kicker to start the war outright, 9/11, killed what, like 1300 people? so in 1 day, actually a mtter of hours, you can almost compare the casualties of this war that’s been goign on for years… wow, not as impactful as you stated huh? wasnt trying to be impactful. although 2000 dead countrymen is pretty impactful to me. > so billions and billions??? well yeah… shit costs money… did you ever check out a budget for THE UNITED STATES… yeah, it’s not that cheap… you don’t really see ‘million’ written anywhere on it… becuase pretty much everything costs ‘billions and billions’ :scared: for example… how much does the government shell out to the average college studen for a grant?? maybe 2k a year… lucky 5k? well the government spends 30 billion a year in that alone… the ‘war on drugs’ gets about 50 billion a year! … medicade savings in the 2006 budget are estimated at over 150 billion… a lot of money is spent or saved regardless of a war… it’s just an added cost. waht do you care anyway? was money ‘personally’ taken from you? did you get higher taxes on your paycheck labeled ‘war tax’ ? > > stop bitching you pussy… i think what’s worse is arguing about the inevitable. just an added cost? shit cost money, so fuck it? You really dont care that the US is 7 trillion dollars in debt? you dont care where you tax dollars go? :ugh: ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/49 "2005-10-15T08:05:41Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > I’ll bet you wouldnt have posted that same response if that 40% were an 85%. How do you know who I support and who I don’t. That has nothing to do with what I said… and THAT my friend, is none of your business. I’ll bet I would say the same thing if I supported Bush or disagreed with some of his actions. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/50 "2005-10-15T08:09:17Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > I’ll bet you wouldnt have posted that same response if that 40% were an 85%. I could honestly say that i would say that because I truly believe all polls are flawed especially when being reported by the media. :hs: ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/51 "2005-10-15T08:15:55Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > I could honestly say that i would say that because I truly believe all polls are flawed especially when being reported by the media. :hs: :ugh: if polls didnt work, then politicians wouldnt spend millions on hiring pollsters and statisticians. ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/52 "2005-10-15T08:18:38Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > :ugh: > if polls didnt work, then politicians wouldnt spend millions on hiring pollsters and statisticians. Politicians will spend millions on anything they think will make them ‘look better to the public’ and will spend millions and billions to do things they think are ‘right’. Example: Pollsters and Stats… and War. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/53 "2005-10-15T08:30:54Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > Politicians will spend millions on anything they think will make them ‘look better to the public’ and will spend millions and billions to do things they think are ‘right’. > > Example: Pollsters and Stats… and War. agreed, she beat me to it. Money talks it goes on every single day. ---
**Author:** ![delsloow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@delsloow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/delsloow)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/54 "2005-10-15T10:11:14Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > I was trying to make the point thats they could have asked anybody, gotten their information anywhere, but I personally was not asked. Therefore some (or a big chunk of the country) was not accounted for in this poll. you obviously do not understand how statistics works… ---
**Author:** ![delsloow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@delsloow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/delsloow)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/55 "2005-10-15T10:12:59Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > I could honestly say that i would say that because I truly believe all polls are flawed especially when being reported by the media. :hs: can you provide more information on why you believe this? Is there a specific method of statistical inference that you feel is flawed? Or is it just because no one asked you what you thought? ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/56 "2005-10-15T10:24:13Z")
> [@delsloow](#): > > you obviously do not understand how statistics works… I understand how statistics work. I also understand there is a variable percentage due to inaccuracies. ---
**Author:** ![VdubSPEEDracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f08c70/32.png) [@VdubSPEEDracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VdubSPEEDracer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/57 "2005-10-15T10:28:48Z")
if your not a registered voter its hard to argue in a political arguement… ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/58 "2005-10-15T10:45:39Z")
> [@delsloow](#): > > can you provide more information on why you believe this? Is there a specific method of statistical inference that you feel is flawed? Or is it just because no one asked you what you thought? Its an open forum didn’t know there was an inventation :rolleyes: I personally believe that the news media is fucked up and they always find some way to fuck up the information given. Also when some one like say CNN (just an example) conducts polls, they are usually polling their own audience and they only know as much as the station is reporting. You can’t tell me that news stations and so forth hold an unbias opinion. Christ this has some up in EVERY single political thread on this forum. Again I’m not saying EVERY poll is conducted like this but if its on the news and you here “on a recent viewers poll” or " a poll on the CNN website" its usually not the true picture, yet politicians or armchair jockeys like yourself take it as such when its in your favor and preach it like gospel… ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/59 "2005-10-15T12:41:04Z")
> [@delsloow](#): > > can you provide more information on why you believe this? Is there a specific method of statistical inference that you feel is flawed? Or is it just because no one asked you what you thought? he’s a retard. dont waste your keystrokes. ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/60 "2005-10-15T13:19:26Z")
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