# Attn: Pittspeed conservative sackriders **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 13, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654 "2005-10-13T12:08:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/61 "2005-10-15T13:20:46Z")
> [@GeneralG](#): > > My answer - John McCain and Ross Perot with Reagan advising from the afterlife- Kill Nafta, build lotsa nukes, drill in Alaska, hit up the third world for “protection” money - fight our wars from our soil - point, click, boom! i agree with killing nafta and drilling in alaska… ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/62 "2005-10-15T13:23:21Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > i agree with killing nafta and drilling in alaska… How about the “protection” money? Just like the mafia…wouldn’t wanna see anything happen to you Saudi’s…this can be a bad neighborhood. Now hand over 20%. :mrT: ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/63 "2005-10-15T13:26:18Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > he’s a retard. dont waste your keystrokes. Sorry we can all be pot smoking hippies :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/64 "2005-10-15T13:29:57Z")
said college liberals trying to act intelligent by using big words ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/65 "2005-10-15T14:13:49Z")
just raising my post count the same way polictial thread posters do this thread is worthless and needs hot chicks:embarassd ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/66 "2005-10-15T18:36:08Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > what is the relevance of comparing it to other wars? 2000 dead American kids is still 2,000 dead American kids. sorry the number doesnt hold enough shock value for you to give a fuck. 1 dead soldier is 1 too many when the war is unjust and pointless. > > wasnt trying to be impactful. although 2000 dead countrymen is pretty impactful to me. > > just an added cost? shit cost money, so fuck it? You really dont care that the US is 7 trillion dollars in debt? you dont care where you tax dollars go? :ugh: you have such an omnicient view on shit it’s hard to even talk to you realistically… why compare to wars? becuase it’s a war… what do you want to compare it to, natural disasters? how about that indian sunami? nicaraguan and indian earthquakes come to mind… over 2000 dead… it wasn’t for shock value? then why bring it up? has any war been fought wtih no casualties?.. just or unjust in darkstars world \> reality. 2000 sucks… just like 9/11 where 1000 more died in a matter of hours… innocent americans on american soil… 2001 a lot of people were gung ho about war… regardless of where it is today… it’s not a lightswitch to be on and off at command. yeah, added in… shit costs money… i do care the US is in debt…just like i care when the steelers lose, or when it rains on saturday… yet i have no control over it. if you care so much about the debt and taxes, what are you doing about it? what can you do? bitch about it to people on the internet? where have i been misguided to the point of not ‘caring’ about debt and taxes… what actions should i be taking? this is a beat argument… not even fun really. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/67 "2005-10-15T22:24:13Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > 2001 a lot of people were gung ho about war… regardless of where it is today… it’s not a lightswitch to be on and off at command. two different wars. you’re deluding yourself if you believe otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/68 "2005-10-15T23:02:59Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > you have such an omnicient view on shit it’s hard to even talk to you realistically… why compare to wars? becuase it’s a war… what do you want to compare it to, natural disasters? how about that indian sunami? nicaraguan and indian earthquakes come to mind… over 2000 dead… it wasn’t for shock value? then why bring it up? has any war been fought wtih no casualties?.. just or unjust in darkstars world \> reality. comparing the war in iraq is about as relevant as comparing it to any of those things you listed. Vietnam was fought in a jungle hand to hand guerilla style in not nearly as technologically advanced times. we’ve come a long way since Vietnam. There will never (short of WWIII or a nuclear/biological war) be another war with that kind of casualties. I know that you know 2000 sucks, but where we differ is that I believe their lives were callusoly wasted on a pointless, unjust war. They died in vain. You dont think so, therefore the knowledge of their deaths is deemed a worthwhile expense in your mind. > 2000 sucks… just like 9/11 where 1000 more died in a matter of hours… innocent americans on american soil… 2001 a lot of people were gung ho about war… regardless of where it is today… it’s not a lightswitch to be on and off at command. why do you mention 9/11 and Iraq in the same sentence as though they are at ALL related? If you want to be blowing somoene up because of terrorists and 9/11 then we should be attacking Saudi Arabia right now. [/quote] yeah, added in… shit costs money… i do care the US is in debt…just like i care when the steelers lose, or when it rains on saturday… yet i have no control over it. [/quote] Bush is spending money like Paris Hilton on coke, and he’s putting it all on the card. Try supporting a canidate who is actually fiscally responsible. (hint: you’d have to look beyond the big two). ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/69 "2005-10-15T23:13:55Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > Bush is spending money like Paris Hilton on coke, and he’s putting it all on the card. Try supporting a canidate who is actually fiscally responsible. (hint: you’d have to look beyond the big two). Howard Dean could do it. ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/70 "2005-10-15T23:19:52Z")
> [@Dick Starbucks](#): > > this thread is worthless and needs hot chicks:embarassd ![http://www.shotgunparty.com/images/shotgunhome.jpg](http://www.shotgunparty.com/images/shotgunhome.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/71 "2005-10-16T05:49:28Z")
/\ a men brother only page 5 doesnt suck now thanks to you ---
**Author:** ![Jenn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Jenn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jenn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/72 "2005-10-16T09:31:01Z")
> [@Dick Starbucks](#): > > this thread is worthless and needs hot chicks:embarassd :sadwavey: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/73 "2005-10-16T09:32:28Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > You dont think so, therefore the knowledge of their deaths is deemed a worthwhile expense in your mind. please don’t tell me what i think… regardless of just or unjust, i don’t support death… i’m not some american hating asshole > why do you mention 9/11 and Iraq in the same sentence you and your boy blanyer are ‘deluted’ if you think they aren’t intertwined. > Try supporting a canidate who is actually fiscally responsible. (hint: you’d have to look beyond the big two). i’d support larry elder all day, doubt we’d have a black libertarian as a president though… so waht the point…? ---
**Author:** ![delsloow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@delsloow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/delsloow)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/74 "2005-10-16T09:50:27Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > I understand how statistics work. I also understand there is a variable percentage due to inaccuracies. for the most part the margin of error will not exceed 5%. I don’t see how this still makes ‘all polls flawed.’ It simply calculates the amount of error due to sample size (decreasing to 0 once the whole population is sampled). However, due to samples and z-scores you can get a realistic sample with a 95% confidence level with a smaller sample size than 95%. Your feelings for polls being flawed is not due to statistical errors, but rather your lack of any knowledge of statistics. ---
**Author:** ![delsloow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@delsloow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/delsloow)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/75 "2005-10-16T10:00:13Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > Its an open forum didn’t know there was an inventation :rolleyes: > > I personally believe that the news media is fucked up and they always find some way to fuck up the information given. > > Also when some one like say CNN (just an example) conducts polls, they are usually polling their own audience and they only know as much as the station is reporting. You can’t tell me that news stations and so forth hold an unbias opinion. Christ this has some up in EVERY single political thread on this forum. > > Again I’m not saying EVERY poll is conducted like this but if its on the news and you here “on a recent viewers poll” or " a poll on the CNN website" its usually not the true picture, yet politicians or armchair jockeys like yourself take it as such when its in your favor and preach it like gospel… i have yet to see anyone quote a tv poll and claim it as truth in this thread. The poll that i quoted was a gallup poll, which is one of the (if not the most) respected polling organization in the world. I am not arguing for or against the presidents approval rating, I am just mearly trying to tell you guys that these polls are legit. However, until you actually take some effort to move past your 7th grade pre-algebra levels and learn some statistics you will never realize that the arguments you pose are the most illogical, idiotic ideas that sound like they’re being spewed by someone with no sense of what they’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/76 "2005-10-16T10:36:30Z")
You know what asshole, I never said in this thread only so shut the fuck up already. Information is altered ALL the time and for you to think that sampling 1000, 10000, or even 100,000 is really acturate with only a max of 5% in a population of almost 300 million, is just plain idiotic. /thread /yourself ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/77 "2005-10-16T14:11:23Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > please don’t tell me what i think… regardless of just or unjust, i don’t support death… i’m not some american hating asshole I know you’re not. Which is the point I was trying to Illustrate. I was a little :shaggy: > you and your boy blanyer are ‘deluted’ if you think they aren’t intertwined. > :ugh: We went to war because of WMD’s and nukes. nothing to do with 9/11. Of course, we now know there were no WMD’s… so… ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/78 "2005-10-16T14:14:41Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > You know what asshole, I never said in this thread only so shut the fuck up already. Information is altered ALL the time and for you to think that sampling 1000, 10000, or even 100,000 is really acturate with only a max of 5% in a population of almost 300 million, is just plain idiotic. > > /thread > /yourself you have no idea whay you’re talking about… :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/79 "2005-10-16T16:56:49Z")
> [@Jenn](#): > > :sadwavey: no defense to you jenn i ment pics of :69: ---
**Author:** ![delsloow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/47e85d/32.png) [@delsloow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/delsloow)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654/80 "2005-10-17T05:07:04Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > You know what asshole, I never said in this thread only so shut the fuck up already. Information is altered ALL the time and for you to think that sampling 1000, 10000, or even 100,000 is really acturate with only a max of 5% in a population of almost 300 million, is just plain idiotic. > > /thread > /yourself /thread? /yourself? :ugh: I found a great article for you. Please read it. [How Are Polls Conducted?](http://media.gallup.com/PDF/FAQ/HowArePolls.pdf) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-pittspeed-conservative-sackriders/177654.md?page=5)