# Audi A4/S4 People Looking for Advice **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 10, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763 "2010-05-10T05:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/1 "2010-05-10T05:59:19Z")
So I am beginning my search for a new vehicle…I am pretty set on an A4 or S4…obv S4 is prefereed but it would have to be of an olderish…05 model…I am looking generally at 05-up Quattro, Manual Trans, etc…Now I know there are a couple different options when it comes to motors on the A4…1.8t, 2.0t pending year and the 2.8 or 3.0 V-6 right yes no maybe. My real dilemma is motor choice. I have driving a new GTI with the 2.0t, I like it if feels damn peppy but is it still nice and peppy in the heavier A4 or is the 6 cyl. def a better choice. I would like to assume the 1.8t/2.0t has the better aftermarket but I just dont know for sure. Any advice suggestions and things to look for would be appreciated on both the A4 and S4s Please and thank you. I am just looking right now not ready to buy as of yet but just gettting a feel for what to look for in the car itself…I know there is a gorgeous one for sale here ---
**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/2 "2010-05-10T06:29:38Z")
S4 is an awesome car, I’m sure walker will chime in. But when it comes to mods they get real expensive real quick for not huge gains. A supercharger kit runs 10k+. If you’re not gonna mod it they are awesome, just pigs on gas. Also make sure to get one with a post 10/2004 build date. They had some issues in the early motors. But by now most should be fixed. 2.0t is also a great motor in the a4, I feel bumping up to the v6 is t worth it, heavier worse on gas and not that much faster. I would look for a b7 with a 2.0t. Again idk if you are a car moddig person but a ecu flash on a 2.0t will yeild more power than a stock v6. And stuff like big turbo upgrads on 2.0t’s can easily make s4 power. It all depends on what you want to do with the car. I say s4 or a 2.0t A4. If you want a quick DD and not mod it get an s4, if you want to mod it and make s4 power and have a much larger/slightly less expensive aftermarket selection go A4. If it were me, as much as I love S4’s I would likely end up with an A4 and spend the money I saved making it faster than an S4 ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/3 "2010-05-10T06:29:57Z")
I would say check out audizine, browse around to get and idea of what you want. I got a 05 3.0 USP over the winter for the wife on ebay which I am very happy with. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/4 "2010-05-10T06:36:55Z")
i really only plan on doing maybe suspension and like exhaust mods maybe other minor stuff…if i were to get an s4 i would prolly just leave it stock with some wheels…i would prefer the v6 turbo versions of the S4 but those are older and the whole point of a new car is to be newer…I have seen some really nice 2.0t versions…in my searches i find they seem to be more common as well. Spencer…were you on the 90 west bound yesterday near Rochester/Batavia round 5 in the supra…if not then I saw a black Supra with nice Front mount and shiny wheels and thought of you ---
**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/5 "2010-05-10T06:54:00Z")
A b6/b7 s4 with exhaust is certainly a reasonable daily. There’s not much to go wrong at all, unlike the b5 s4 which was a disaster for reliablility. They’re SUPER slow. Unimaginably slow. But they sure are nice. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/6 "2010-05-10T06:58:54Z")
Note to self…stay away from B5 S4s…thanks…I just joined Audizine and poking around now Thanks ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/7 "2010-05-10T07:54:55Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > Spencer…were you on the 90 west bound yesterday near Rochester/Batavia round 5 in the supra…if not then I saw a black Supra with nice Front mount and shiny wheels and thought of you Ha I only had the supra out once this yr to take to the BBQ last wk so it wasnt me. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/8 "2010-05-10T08:43:28Z")
i just picked up a b6 s4 …i fell in love with it ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/9 "2010-05-10T08:53:21Z")
Me and my wife were looking at A4/S4 last year… we decieded to go with a tuned A4 2.0T over a S4… she gets great MPG in her car (~30) and her car still put down \> 300lb feet of torque and 285 WHP… ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/10 "2010-05-10T08:58:05Z")
is it just an ECU tune…cause that sounds lovely… ---
**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/11 "2010-05-10T10:43:17Z")
A basic ecu flash gives you about 260ish at the crank. Some other mods will yeild more 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/12 "2010-05-10T10:53:35Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > is it just an ECU tune…cause that sounds lovely… She has exhaust, test pipe, hpfp, fmic, carbonio, and revo hpfp file dyno was 246WHP/310TQ ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/13 "2010-05-10T11:04:32Z")
thats prolly about the extent of the mods I would do…BTW how does the exhaust sound FYI this one that i was oogling over on eBay [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-A4-2-0T-QUATTRO-BOSE-XENONS-SIRIUS-6-SPEED-MANUAL-/200469630328?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks&hash=item2eacebcd78](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-A4-2-0T-QUATTRO-BOSE-XENONS-SIRIUS-6-SPEED-MANUAL-/200469630328?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2eacebcd78) [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-AUDI-A4-4-1-8T-TURBO-QUATTRO-6-SPEED-ROOF-BOSE-/200465709817?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks&hash=item2eacaffaf9](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-AUDI-A4-4-1-8T-TURBO-QUATTRO-6-SPEED-ROOF-BOSE-/200465709817?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2eacaffaf9) ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/14 "2010-05-10T12:36:57Z")
Her exhaust is nice… really deep… its a bosal i think… some german brand not made anymore i guess… I would get a B7… you get the 2.0T DI in those… more torque ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/15 "2010-05-10T12:40:04Z")
I am still getting to know these cars…but in 2005 did they split b6 and b7 that year…i see some with the 1.8t and some with 2.0t ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/16 "2010-05-10T12:42:52Z")
I think you’d be crazy to pick one over a similar aged and priced BMW 3 series having driven both… make sure you try both out before you buy. plenty of good deals on cars like a 2006 330. random quick example: [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pristine-Condition-BMW-330-Six-Speed-Manaual-Trans-/170481076008?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks&hash=item27b176c728](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pristine-Condition-BMW-330-Six-Speed-Manaual-Trans-/170481076008?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item27b176c728) ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/17 "2010-05-10T12:45:42Z")
i have driven a newer 3 series…although it is a fabulous car…i like the looks and layout of the Audi more…The wife is gettting a 3 series though lol ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/18 "2010-05-10T13:50:54Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > I am still getting to know these cars…but in 2005 did they split b6 and b7 that year…i see some with the 1.8t and some with 2.0t Yes, 2005.5 split the B6/B7 Obviously the 2005.5 B7 is a better value ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/19 "2010-05-10T14:55:29Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > Yes, 2005.5 split the B6/B7 > > Obviously the 2005.5 B7 is a better value Uh, not exactly. 2005 B6s have FAR less “issues”. B7s made in 2005.5 fashion have loads of problems. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763/20 "2010-05-10T14:57:20Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Uh, not exactly. 2005 B6s have FAR less “issues”. B7s made in 2005.5 fashion have loads of problems. I had no idea… i never really saw anything differant on the forums… but we ended up with an 06 [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4-s4-people-looking-for-advice/154763.md?page=2)