# Audi A4

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [February 9, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957 "2004-02-09T08:06:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/21 "2004-02-15T09:33:35Z")

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> _Originally posted by blkmax005spd_   
> **you can pick up a 2000 1.8 turbo with about 60k miles for around 14k with the sports package…  
> they had that style for a while…it first came out in 1996  
> THe 1.8 Turbo’s are really cheap now!  
> and a new Denali is pimp!!  
> but they are gonna redo those trucks for 2006!  
> just thought i would let ya know…**

97 - 2000 only made 150 hp then in 2001 they used the KO3 Sport turbo and made like 170 i think… so their is a lil difference in the years

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**Author:** ![dommagicjuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dommagicjuan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dommagicjuan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/22 "2004-02-23T09:38:23Z")

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the a4’s are really nice, aside from the fact that they are hard to find parts for, but they are out there,and its well worth it

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/23 "2004-02-23T09:50:39Z")

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> _Originally posted by dommagicjuan_   
> **the a4’s are really nice, aside from the fact that they are hard to find parts for, but they are out there,and its well worth it**

what are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/24 "2004-02-23T10:01:59Z")

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my uncle has a 00 a4 1.8t quattro. the interior is perfect. but performance wise, stock, it is really slow. the 1.8t can be modded for pretty cheap though.

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**Author:** ![s14M3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@s14M3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14M3)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/25 "2004-02-23T20:47:44Z")

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> _Originally posted by dommagicjuan_   
> **the a4’s are really nice, aside from the fact that they are hard to find parts for, but they are out there,and its well worth it**

Where talkin about a A4 here…Its not a rare car or anything special.

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**Author:** ![dommagicjuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dommagicjuan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dommagicjuan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/26 "2004-02-23T21:03:19Z")

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i dunno wa slookin at the mand i ende dup not bein able to afford one, but i wasnt comin up with to much when i was lookin for parts, my bad,guess its not as bad as i thought

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/27 "2004-02-23T21:07:39Z")

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spell check

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**Author:** ![dommagicjuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dommagicjuan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dommagicjuan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/28 "2004-02-23T21:33:13Z")

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that one was a little better huh?..im workin on it

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/29 "2004-02-23T21:34:06Z")

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> _Originally posted by dommagicjuan_   
> **that one was a little better huh?..im workin on it**   
> :bigok: :bigok:

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**Author:** ![highwaters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@highwaters](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/highwaters)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/30 "2004-03-02T19:10:10Z")

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2000 1.8t’s = AWD Engine Code = 150hp ko3 turbo  
2001 1.8t’s = AWW Engine Code = 150hp ko3 sport turbo (just a ko3 with k04 fins)  
2002 1.8t’s = AWP Engine Code = 180hp ko3 sport turbo

The reason for the hp jump between AWW + AWP engines is ECU programing, nothing else. They are they same exact turbo.

Chipped, they will not all perform the same, AWD’s will run a couple ponies less than AWW/AWP’s

Chips will run you $500base for 93oct programming. the 3 most popular brands are:  
APR [www.goapr.com](http://www.goapr.com) [www.ecstuning.com](http://www.ecstuning.com)  
GIAC [www.awetuning.com](http://www.awetuning.com)  
REVO [www.forgemotorsport.com](http://www.forgemotorsport.com)

From what I hear GIAC will give you the most bang for the buck, and APR is the smoothest/ stock like. I will be going with APR once i gather enough bones 🙂

However, the A4’s only get 170hp, not 180 like the GTI’s. I do believe that once chipped, they will both be on par. Why they only get 170hp isnt discussed much on the forums ive been to. Most think its because of drivetrain loss due to AWD which is not true. Probably just cheap-o Audi politics.

Unless you want AWD that bad id say just go with a GTI. The A4 is a hog compared to the already pig-like weight of the mk4.

4 Mods for the 1.8t will have you running some nice whp#'s

Chip = $500  
TB exhaust = $850  
CAI = $130-190  
N75J-valve = $65  
\*(additional psi booster, should have you spiking around 20-21… sometimes even 22, which is bad and will put you into “limp mode”… a safety feature which will limit you to 5psi… nothing a MBC cant fix though 😉 )

so lets say for about $1.7k youll be running in the 205+whp range with torque for days… hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2004, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/31 "2004-03-02T20:08:22Z")

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I like them, i drove my sisters when i was down at her place last summer. The inside and everything has that feel to it, like its an expensive car, when it really isnt. drived really nice and quick

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**Author:** ![SP71Supra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sp71supra/32/5955_2.png) [@SP71Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SP71Supra)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-a4/163957/32 "2004-03-03T20:45:45Z")

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> _Originally posted by highwaters_   
> **2000 1.8t’s = AWD Engine Code = 150hp ko3 turbo  
> 2001 1.8t’s = AWW Engine Code = 150hp ko3 sport turbo (just a ko3 with k04 fins)  
> 2002 1.8t’s = AWP Engine Code = 180hp ko3 sport turbo**
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>  
> 
> The reason for the hp jump between AWW + AWP engines is ECU programing, nothing else. They are they same exact turbo.
> 
> Chipped, they will not all perform the same, AWD’s will run a couple ponies less than AWW/AWP’s
> 
> Chips will run you $500base for 93oct programming. the 3 most popular brands are:  
> APR [www.goapr.com](http://www.goapr.com) [www.ecstuning.com](http://www.ecstuning.com)  
> GIAC [www.awetuning.com](http://www.awetuning.com)  
> REVO [www.forgemotorsport.com](http://www.forgemotorsport.com)
> 
> From what I hear GIAC will give you the most bang for the buck, and APR is the smoothest/ stock like. I will be going with APR once i gather enough bones 🙂
> 
> However, the A4’s only get 170hp, not 180 like the GTI’s. I do believe that once chipped, they will both be on par. Why they only get 170hp isnt discussed much on the forums ive been to. Most think its because of drivetrain loss due to AWD which is not true. Probably just cheap-o Audi politics.
> 
> Unless you want AWD that bad id say just go with a GTI. The A4 is a hog compared to the already pig-like weight of the mk4.
> 
> 4 Mods for the 1.8t will have you running some nice whp#'s
> 
> Chip = $500  
> TB exhaust = $850  
> CAI = $130-190  
> N75J-valve = $65  
> \*(additional psi booster, should have you spiking around 20-21… sometimes even 22, which is bad and will put you into “limp mode”… a safety feature which will limit you to 5psi… nothing a MBC cant fix though 😉 )
> 
> **so lets say for about $1.7k youll be running in the 205+whp range with torque for days… hope this helps!**

Thanks for the info bud! 🙂 … I was interested in maybe getting one in a year or so. I really wasnt concerned about the horsepower, I already got a car for building high HP. They are awsome all around cars, I dont think I would even mod an A4. Some people already told me i should put an exhaust on my Denali… I would never mod a daily driver.

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