# Audi People - Problem 1 with my A4 1.8T **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 11, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751 "2008-04-11T09:12:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/21 "2008-04-11T11:39:51Z")
> [@GM on strike as of 11am](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-on-strike-as-of-11am/35866/40): > > I’ve been looking for an A6, and saw quite a few there…I’ll have to think twice about that now. Thanks for the input. Like I said they are nice people to deal with, but if they aren’t checking timing belts in Audi’s, who knows what else they aren’t doing. ---
**Author:** ![ben1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@ben1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ben1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/22 "2008-04-11T11:40:06Z")
I actually had a 98 1.8t before I got the S4. I miss it… [![http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/2/thumbs/42car9.JPG](http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/2/thumbs/42car9.JPG)](http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1325) [![http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/2/thumbs/42car2.JPG](http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/2/thumbs/42car2.JPG)](http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1324) ---
**Author:** ![ben1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@ben1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ben1)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/23 "2008-04-11T11:43:03Z")
> [@FS 93 Cavalier](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-93-cavalier/35830/10): > > Thanks for the input. Like I said they are nice people to deal with, but if they aren’t checking timing belts in Audi’s, who knows what else they aren’t doing. Yeah they are hard to check too. If they don’t have documentation that they were changed don’t trust it. Typically the tensioner breaks before the belt does, so you can’t tell by looking at the belt. Other issues are if the bearing in the idler pulley fails, or the waterpump fails, there goes the Tbelt. ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/24 "2008-04-11T12:10:38Z")
> [@College Kids: What classes are you taking?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/college-kids-what-classes-are-you-taking/35889/21): > > sellin the miata? _fag_ x2345468798069765435676423 ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/25 "2008-04-11T12:35:22Z")
Foreign Traffic does know what they are doing, I worked there in high school. They aren’t cheap at all! But you will know it’s done right! Pull the head, replace the water pump, belt, tensioner (pulling the pan isn’t a lot of fun)…Then see which intake valves are bent, replace them @ 20 bux a pop and re-install. GL-Mark Morris should be able to do this with his eyes closed 🍺 ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/26 "2008-04-11T13:16:26Z")
Well, I think I’m sold. The fit and finish of the TT is great, it’s really comfortable. They have 2, a silver AWD 225hp roadster model, and a 180hp FWD coupe model. I am set on a black coupe, and the 180hp model is their black one. I don’t really care about the power, but AWD would be nice for winter, but it isn’t a necessity at all. Someone either didn’t tell Rick about the prices, or he was lying through his teeth. I’m sitting in the roadster (the black one was outside and it was raining) just to get a feel for it, and I say “The black is 10,900 sticker, right?” He says “No, it’s 13,900. It’s never been 10,900.” He tells me the roadster is 14,900. So, I wasn’t buying today anyways, so I got his card and came home to double check their prices on Craigslist - [http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/637891393.html](http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/637891393.html) $10,900 for the coupe, and 13,900 for the roadster. :doh: ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Morris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@Mark\_Morris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mark_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/27 "2008-04-11T13:48:12Z")
Jesse, get a 225. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/28 "2008-04-11T14:21:34Z")
> [@well... hopefully no more GTO\> newman's STi threads... (a few new pics, page 2)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-hopefully-no-more-gto-newmans-sti-threads-a-few-new-pics-page-2/35897/28): > > Jesse, get a 225. x100 ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/29 "2008-04-11T16:45:57Z")
Why the 225? Same motor, no? Just minor differences I thought. The car is going to mechanically probably stay 100% stock. As long as the car can get out of it’s own way, I’m fine with it. If I was looking for another “sports” car, I’d be buying my buddies DSM. ---
**Author:** ![SH0CKER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@SH0CKER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SH0CKER)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/30 "2008-04-12T09:19:06Z")
TTs AWD sucks it is not even Quattro. My buddy is an Audi mechanic he knows Audis. He said he’d never get a TT. “The Audi’s 6-speed manual is paired to an AWD system that is essentially FWD until front-wheel slippage occurs” = Shit AWD not anything near Quattro. I can’t believe they even badge it a Quattro showed be a crime cause it is in NO way Quattro…really only a glorified FWD Matt ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/31 "2008-04-12T09:59:35Z")
I don’t personally care if it’s AWD or FWD, but the FWD 180’s are cheaper, and that’s what I’m leaning towards. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/32 "2008-04-12T16:53:57Z")
> [@Post up pics of your best wreck.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-up-pics-of-your-best-wreck/35879/48): > > TTs AWD sucks it is not even Quattro. My buddy is an Audi mechanic he knows Audis. He said he’d never get a TT. > > “The Audi’s 6-speed manual is paired to an AWD system that is essentially FWD until front-wheel slippage occurs” = Shit AWD not anything near Quattro. I can’t believe they even badge it a Quattro showed be a crime cause it is in NO way Quattro…really only a glorified FWD > > Matt They sell controller to regulate that 😉 They sell 2 6spds…1 is an 02J code which came on the 180’s…and the other is 02M which came on the 225’s IIRC…the 225 is much nicer IMO ---
**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/33 "2008-04-17T22:35:02Z")
> [@69 / 94 Camaro on eBay - get your barf bag ready](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/69-94-camaro-on-ebay-get-your-barf-bag-ready/35901/10): > > Why the 225? Same motor, no? Just minor differences I thought. > > The car is going to mechanically probably stay 100% stock. As long as the car can get out of it’s own way, I’m fine with it. If I was looking for another “sports” car, I’d be buying my buddies DSM. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ben1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@ben1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ben1)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/34 "2008-04-18T05:35:45Z")
The 225 has the K04 turbo rather then the k03. Ko4 is a very popular upgrade for all audi/vw 1.8ts and 2.7ts. The 225 tt has stronger diverter valves, 6-speed manual rather than 5-speed, and the dual exhaust out the rear. I don’t think any internals are upgraded, but may be wrong. Either way you can easily put the k04 on the 180 and get over 225hp, but you can also just chip the 225 and get a decent boost in power. But you aren’t planning on doing any of that. Either way if you did get tired of the 180 after you got it, you could just chip it and get over 200hp out of it safely. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Morris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@Mark\_Morris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mark_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/35 "2008-04-18T05:56:44Z")
225 has lower compression and forged internals too. ---
**Author:** ![04VDubGLI18T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/9fc29f/32.png) [@04VDubGLI18T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/04VDubGLI18T)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/36 "2008-04-18T06:58:28Z")
> [@Compression vs boost tradeoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compression-vs-boost-tradeoff/35023/31): > > 225 has lower compression and forged internals too. 225 doesn’t have forged internals. Better than the 180s. The 180s are pretty much identical to the VW 1.8Ts. The 225s are closer to the older VW 1.8ts. 225s = 9:1. 180s = 9.5:1. I’d get the 225. Trans is better, turbo is better, resell value is better. 225 can hold somewhere into the ~350whp range, 180 can hold ~300whp range. By the time you’re making that power you better do rods. Pistons are great in both… rods are garbage. OP, I sent you a PM… and I’m going to send a second now. Just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/37 "2008-04-18T07:24:59Z")
> [@Compression vs boost tradeoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compression-vs-boost-tradeoff/35023/30): > > The 225 has the K04 turbo rather then the k03. Ko4 is a very popular upgrade for all audi/vw 1.8ts and 2.7ts. > > The 225 tt has stronger diverter valves, 6-speed manual rather than 5-speed, and the dual exhaust out the rear. I don’t think any internals are upgraded, but may be wrong. > > Either way you can easily put the k04 on the 180 and get over 225hp, but you can also just chip the 225 and get a decent boost in power. But you aren’t planning on doing any of that. Either way if you did get tired of the 180 after you got it, you could just chip it and get over 200hp out of it safely. That’s a different k04 then what they upgrade on the 1.8T’s. k04-015xxxx…the 2.7t’s have different k04 turbo’s also, they are very similar to the k04-020xxxx…lower compression as stated…bigger 20mm wrist pins…forged crank but not the strongest rods…the biggest difference is awd vs fwd and the TT225 makes it much nicer stock then a 180 even if both are AWD ---
**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/38 "2008-05-07T18:09:51Z")
Update: After a month of dicking around with these assholes, after many threats of suit and filing with the Attorney General, and a month of them ignoring our calls and making up excuses, the owner of the dealership came forward. He claimed he had no idea that this was going on, and said that it will be paid in full and the car will be returned in a week or two. The owner has already paid the mechanic, and said the car should be back within a week, two at the latest. All the people that work at the dealership were just idiots. The owner sounds like the only sensible one. = I win. ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/39 "2008-05-07T18:12:02Z")
glad to hear. hopefully it holds up for you ---
**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-people-problem-1-with-my-a4-1-8t/196751/40 "2008-05-07T18:17:46Z")
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