# Audi Turbos

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 2, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091 "2008-04-02T11:59:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![AKasprzyk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/akasprzyk/32/4967_2.png) [@AKasprzyk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKasprzyk)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/1 "2008-04-02T11:59:52Z")

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i’m hoping someone can give me a little more info, im looking to upgrade my 2.7t Ko3 turbos to Ko4 RS6 hybrid turbos, im curious if i can use the fuel kit from awe tuning with these turbos [http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part\_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4\_27t\_drivetrain.cfm&PPT=Drivetrain&IL=rsk04](http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4_27t_drivetrain.cfm&PPT=Drivetrain&IL=rsk04)

also what are suggestions for exhausts/ intakes?

thanks  
andy

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_SLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@Rocket\_SLC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rocket_SLC)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/2 "2008-04-17T09:05:30Z")

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You might check out [www.audiworld.com](http://www.audiworld.com) or [www.audizine.com](http://www.audizine.com) for some answers.  
I would suggest calling AWE directly. They are very helpful.  
Our local vw audi forum [www.dubsinthebuff.com](http://www.dubsinthebuff.com)  
Also local is Blackforest motorsports, Jason is a very good guy that would be happy to help.

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**Author:** ![Matt\_Danger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt_danger/32/4981_2.png) [@Matt\_Danger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Matt_Danger)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/3 "2008-04-17T09:37:11Z")

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You’d want to call AWE (Mike was great to me) directly about whether their k04 fueling kit would work. I’m sure a lot of the components in the kit are reusable but you’d still need a custom tune. If you’re starting from scratch I would also call Mark at Autospeed, I’ve heard they have a K04/RS6 kit now.

Call Jason @ Blackforest Motorsports, his username is Bracketracer on here he has hookups with GIAC and I think a few others.

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**Author:** ![a4tis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19b73/32.png) [@a4tis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a4tis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/4 "2008-04-17T16:17:19Z")

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Also, contact the guys over at VAST - really cool guys who will help in any way they can maybe they can hook you up.

[vastperformance.com](http://vastperformance.com)

Actually, Audios is running RS6 'brid turbos in his. He is custom tuned by VAST IIRC.

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**Author:** ![crx18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@crx18](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crx18)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/5 "2008-04-17T19:23:49Z")

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I think European Performance Labs (EPL) has a fueling kit for those hybrids. Their site wasn’t working when I checked. The AWE kit would work and you could add more boost with their electronic boost controller option as the hybrids would handle more. You could also adjust the timing with lemmiwinks. It all comes down to needing a custom tune and how comfortable you are. VAST does great custom tunes if you can get your car to Detroit.

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**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/6 "2008-04-18T09:51:04Z")

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I am running 22psi on K04’s and have totally stock fueling with a adjustable FPR. The stock injectors can handle a lot and so can the stock fuel pump.

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/7 "2008-04-19T06:11:41Z")

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> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> I am running 22psi on K04’s and have totally stock fueling with a adjustable FPR. The stock injectors can handle a lot and so can the stock fuel pump.

+1 car hauls ass and doesn’t lean out

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/8 "2008-04-19T06:47:57Z")

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> [@AKasprzyk"](#):
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> i’m hoping someone can give me a little more info, im looking to upgrade my 2.7t Ko3 turbos to Ko4 RS6 hybrid turbos, im curious if i can use the fuel kit from awe tuning with these turbos [http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part\_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4\_27t\_drivetrain.cfm&PPT=Drivetrain&IL=rsk04](http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4_27t_drivetrain.cfm&PPT=Drivetrain&IL=rsk04)
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> also what are suggestions for exhausts/ intakes?
> 
> thanks  
> andy

Be ready to spend some really good coin. After parts, labour, custom tune, and a shit load on ancillary things that you really should have addressed while the engine is pulled you’re looking at $10k assuming you’re starting from scratch (from stock form).

Do yourself a huge favor, and call two people: Jason at [BlackForestmotorsport.com](http://BlackForestmotorsport.com) for guidance and possibly getting you started on this journey and also be sure to get in touch with Mike at [Vastperformance.com](http://Vastperformance.com) about the RS6 kit and custom tune. Vast Performance is only 3.5 hours away in Michigan (via Ontario).

One final thought: Use the b5 S4 discussion board at [audiworld.com](http://audiworld.com) to do some reseach.

GL

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/9 "2008-04-19T06:52:22Z")

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> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> I am running 22psi on K04’s and have totally stock fueling with a adjustable FPR. The stock injectors can handle a lot and so can the stock fuel pump.

Man, I’ve never heard of anyone suggesting or eluding to the fact that stock fueling will suffice for a RS6 car!:eyebrow:

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/10 "2008-04-19T08:46:39Z")

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> [@'\[1.75](#):
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> barWannaB5S4;913020’]Man, I’ve never heard of anyone suggesting or eluding to the fact that stock fueling will suffice for a RS6 car!:eyebrow:

the bottom line is the car makes power, isn’t leaning out, and doesn’t show knock.

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/11 "2008-04-20T04:40:07Z")

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> [@somedude](#):
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> the bottom line is the car makes power, isn’t leaning out, and doesn’t show knock.

A number of people run like that (Stg3-), however, the RS6 brid isn’t the same animal as a straight K04. The question from the initial poster was in reference to fueling on a car with turbos that are a bit different than 01AudiS4’s and mine. I willing to bet you won’t find ONE person in the world running RS6 hybrids w/o fueling in an S4… that would be the same as running an GT2 with studded snows on a road course \>\>\> makes no sense.

Bottom line: you spend that kind of money on an RS6 setup, you get the proper fueling…

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/12 "2008-04-20T08:56:02Z")

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i have heard AKA 2.7T Valve Tick like crazy…Dont get ko4 that motor will not last any longer…it has a serious tick…i say save your money for a rebuilt.

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/13 "2008-04-21T06:43:09Z")

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> [@SilverGT](#):
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> i have heard AKA 2.7T Valve Tick like crazy…Dont get ko4 that motor will not last any longer…it has a serious tick…i say save your money for a rebuilt.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/14 "2008-04-21T08:39:56Z")

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The car had 144k on the engine 2 months ago.  
I wouldn’t be dropping RS6 coin on a salvage title with that many miles.

Just a suggestion.

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**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/15 "2008-04-21T08:47:07Z")

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To the original poster, I would take the links and contact information from this thread. On the other hand, any advice that comes from here… I’d take with a grain of salt.

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/16 "2008-04-21T15:15:43Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> The car had 144k on the engine 2 months ago.  
> I wouldn’t be dropping RS6 coin on a salvage title with that many miles.
> 
> Just a suggestion.

BIIIIIG 2nd!

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**Author:** ![\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/96bed5/32.png) [@\_1.75\_barWannaB5S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_1.75_barWannaB5S4)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-turbos/46091/17 "2008-04-21T15:24:27Z")

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> [@sureshot!](#):
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> To the original poster, I would take the links and contact information from this thread. On the other hand, any advice that comes from here… I’d take with a grain of salt.

All of the suggested tuners listed in this thread are all proven, quailty shops. The customer service winners however are BlackforstMotorsport (AKA Jason Dale) and VAST Performance (AKA Piggie/Mike Shimon).

Both of these shops are highly reputable. Blackforest for local (from Rochester through to Erie) work and VAST is globally recognized for their 2.7t innovation for 8 years.

Both shops give you awesome service, awesome pricing and the most important IMO, honesty…

No grains of salt needed as their reputaions speak for themselves.
