# audi vs. bmw

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [May 19, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249 "2009-05-19T16:48:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/41 "2009-05-22T06:22:41Z")

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> [@10/4: JDMR2/BeautyOfAWD's sendoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-4-jdmr2-beautyofawds-sendoff/18237/14):
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> Not to mention Dr. Douchebag McLiftsalot

previous owner?

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/42 "2009-05-22T06:27:41Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/18409/23):
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> any S4 with good control arms, a good alignment and good tires will feel like nicks… one with better suspension will be even more impressive… my friends got a basic H&R setup and his rides so nice… its so smooth, but is low.

when you say good control arms, what do you mean?

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/43 "2009-05-22T06:29:58Z")

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> [@WNYFBody stolen...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wnyfbody-stolen/18366/227):
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> My BMW’s were OK, but stuff did break. Probably was partially my fault.
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> I still want to get a ride in Nick’s car at some point.

Shit is so cash. I’m probably buying a 325 and the m50 that comes out of it is going to lay in waiting for the S52 to give up the ghost. Gonna put some turbo hard parts together in the mean time :shifty

> [@EVO & WRX/STi people, Mud Flap group buy...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-wrx-sti-people-mud-flap-group-buy/18398/12):
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> previous owner?

Ugh. Yes.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/44 "2009-05-22T06:33:51Z")

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> [@FS: Atari 2600](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-atari-2600/17454/2):
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> when you say good control arms, what do you mean?

ones that arent broken. the ball joints within them go bad, giving you that clunk or thud when you hit a bump. if they get bad enough it could have a shudder when you are driving, almost like a bad wheel bearing.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/45 "2009-05-22T06:36:22Z")

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And eventually can fail and put your ass in a ditch.

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/46 "2009-05-22T06:38:31Z")

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> [@Where can you get a decent philly cheese steak?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-can-you-get-a-decent-philly-cheese-steak/18425/4):
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> ones that arent broken. the ball joints within them go bad, giving you that clunk or thud when you hit a bump. if they get bad enough it could have a shudder when you are driving, almost like a bad wheel bearing.

ahhhh, ic ic. i thought you were talking about some kind of an aftermarket set thats superior to OEM control arms.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/47 "2009-05-22T06:40:34Z")

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> [@If fat women can have Lane Bryant and fat men can have JCPenny](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-fat-women-can-have-lane-bryant-and-fat-men-can-have-jcpenny/18407/33):
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> Shit is so cash. I’m probably buying a 325 and the m50 that comes out of it is going to lay in waiting for the S52 to give up the ghost. Gonna put some turbo hard parts together in the mean time :shifty
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> Ugh. Yes.

Do it up all Nick Furcheck style.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/48 "2009-05-22T06:44:31Z")

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> [@Call out, anyone??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-out-anyone/18015/59):
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> And eventually can fail and put your ass in a ditch.

ive yet to see that happen. the ball end is in there pretty good, and the ball joint is channeled and held in the upright with a m10 bolt

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/49 "2009-05-22T06:46:25Z")

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Oh I don’t know much about Audis, but you see old S10s/Blazers/Jimmys with their wheels and suspension hanging off from balljoint failure all the time :rofl

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/50 "2009-05-22T06:47:47Z")

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B5 control arm’s

![http://www.h2sport.com/images/products/suspension/control%20arm%20kit.jpg](http://www.h2sport.com/images/products/suspension/control%20arm%20kit.jpg)

and what it all looks like

![http://www.blauparts.com/assets/audi_vw_control_arms/audi_suspension_diagram.jpg](http://www.blauparts.com/assets/audi_vw_control_arms/audi_suspension_diagram.jpg)

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/51 "2009-05-22T06:49:20Z")

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:facepalm

fuck all that.

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/52 "2009-05-22T06:50:29Z")

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that looks familiar. theres so many more things in there compared to other cars ive seen

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/53 "2009-05-22T06:51:03Z")

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> [@Sporty Benz Sedans?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sporty-benz-sedans/18395/47):
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> :facepalm
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> fuck all that.

what does urs look like?

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/54 "2009-05-22T06:51:51Z")

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I’m going to hire Brett as my personal mechanic. All these crazy charts and diagrams :rofl

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/55 "2009-05-22T06:53:11Z")

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> [@votblindub"](#):
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> what does urs look like?

![http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/suspension/suspension_e30_alumcarm_lg.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/f/1f3bd2b1bdd6dc78a3bd11f56db4025bc74c7659.jpeg)

That’s it. :rofl

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**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/56 "2009-05-22T06:54:30Z")

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> [@Corn Maze near The Track?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/corn-maze-near-the-track/18414/12):
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> Drive my car and you’ll be sold. lol.

i would love your car, but im just looking for something a little more simple, besides i only need one fast car, my dd’s are usually slow and i like it like that, it keeps me out of trouble

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/57 "2009-05-22T06:54:47Z")

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do your wheels lean into turns like mine do, Benny?

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/58 "2009-05-22T06:55:35Z")

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> [@EVO & WRX/STi people, Mud Flap group buy...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-wrx-sti-people-mud-flap-group-buy/18398/14):
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> I’m going to hire Brett as my personal mechanic. All these crazy charts and diagrams :rofl

i dont work on cars anymore. notice how my GTI isnt done?

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/59 "2009-05-22T06:56:22Z")

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> [@FS/T: 1967 toyota stout 1900](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-t-1967-toyota-stout-1900/18368/17):
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> do your wheels lean into turns like mine do, Benny?

…

Does my camber change as the suspension compresses? Yes, but not as much as yours. That’s why BMWs run crazy static camber up front.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-vs-bmw/244249/60 "2009-05-22T06:57:18Z")

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> [@FS/T: 1967 toyota stout 1900](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-t-1967-toyota-stout-1900/18368/17):
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> do your wheels lean into turns like mine do, Benny?

floating camber is BAD. Mk4s have that too, variable geometry, my car can go from like -.5\* to + 3\* through a turn… multi link is for ride quality, not to handle like an F1 car… audis take alot of work to handle even close to a stock E36 M3… being a 60/40ish weight split doesnt help them much with their tendency to understeer heavily.

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