# auotx 08 **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [October 23, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379 "2008-10-23T07:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sil8t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sil8t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sil8t)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/21 "2008-10-24T09:03:24Z")
give it a try… its great fun well i havent been able to go out to any drift days cuz of my work schedule/finishing current car next year for sure. i have a trailor beening built for me just incase shit breaks ---
**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/22 "2008-10-24T09:07:09Z")
My grandparents can drive fast around turns/in straight lines. FindbetterdrivinghobbyIMO lol j/k, I enjoy all types of driving but the real skill sits in drifting =O /argue ---
**Author:** ![kimmerkaze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@kimmerkaze](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kimmerkaze)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/23 "2008-10-24T10:51:35Z")
> [@Wow I suck at math...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-i-suck-at-math/18774/31): > > Kimmer, it’s Ahmed, he just talks like he knows. I don’t know why you wasted your time to type all that. > > And relax, I wasn’t saying gay to autox, I just said gay in general. If you want specifics, it was about that gay huge sticker on sil8t’s car. I’d love to try autox. But I prefer going to a Roadcourse as it’s easier for me since the track is all laid out for you, rather than cones. > > 🙂 Yeaa…I have my last midterm in a bit and I needed a break. Plus I’m still hoping one of these days he realizes where he stands, I tried. Haha I was jk about the comment, and I was implying that I was disappointed when that was all you had to say…I was expecting some kind of gif or one liner. I thought about the whole course layout being confusing too, but after watching some vids, it doesn’t seem to bad at all since they have cones pointing in a certain direction guiding you through the course. jpod, from what I’ve heard and seen, it seems like you can learn a lot about suspension from autox. i guess you could say the same about drift though, just a bit different. to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/24 "2008-10-24T12:55:46Z")
> [@Wow I suck at math...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wow-i-suck-at-math/18774/30): > > Good to see some autox sil8t, looks like you had a lot of fun. I’ll keep you in mind for next season since I’ve been wanting to give autox a try. Not sure if you have sways but you might want to consider up sizing a bit from stock if you haven’t already. > > Can you please explain to us all how there is not enough sway or spring rate. I’m pretty sure with 12/10kg Megan tracks, there’s more than enough spring rate, rebound settings on the other hand might not be matched. I find your statements kinda contradictory since you say that there’s not enough travel, yet you encourage to up the spring rate since there’s not enough. Could it be possible that his front end settings are too stiff, preventing adequate wheel travel, and this could be causing his understeer issues? > > Also, raising the car would really do nothing but correct his geometry (and possibly slightly change the shape of his rebound curve - depending on where the piston’s current range of motion lies), or he could keep it slammed and just reset his control arms with extended bj’s. If you’re going to get all technical, at least explain yourself more thoroughly, not some bullshit like “i think bumping the car up a little would help in grip overall anyways its way too lowered, the suspension doesn’t get to do its job” - thanks Ahmed, I now know that I have to make my suspension ‘do its job’ by raising the car height…not. > > With understeer there’s also contribution from his steering column. On my car I’m currently noticing a high amount of flex from the column bushing (soooo shot right now, replacing with aluminum next year) so when I add steering input, due to the flex, this gives a springy feeling to your steering input (ie. it might take maybe 1/16 of a turn to actually start moving the wheels). Once the wheels start to move, all of the preload built up from the column flex outputs to the wheels all at once, giving you something far from a linear input -\> output. This is for manual steering btw. In Sil8t’s case, I’m sure his tie-rod geometry’s a bit off at his current height but meh…shouldn’t be that much of a factor compared to the LCA angles and undersized sway (if that’s the case). > > And were you saying 285/30/18’s on the s14 just because you wish you could run those with your MONSTROUS taurus brakes? Check again buddy, I think you’re just dreaming…oh wait, you always are. > > I’ll give you credit though, your ‘friends’ setup is pretty nice. 😃 > > Have a good one. > > PS: C’mon Mark, you’re losing your touch… Simply saying ‘gay’ isn’t up to your usual standards man. How come no love for autox? I wasn’t contradicting myself I was just brainstorming some possibilities, he didn’t say what setup he had. If he has 12/10 setup, then by all means he needs some fatter and grippier rubber eg; r comps cause thats pretty much useless otherwise unless he wants to slide around while overloading the poor lil tires. One could only guess at the typical issues with an s13, without knowing what he has. Secondly s13s have shitty front travel, too much anti-squat in the rear, usually a combination of tricks are used to make it all work. Being lowered is not exactly going to help the front have more travel and prevent further understeer, nor will a shittyly oversprung rear help with an already too much antisquar rear end help with preventing oversteer. A stock s13 understeers just as shittily as this supposingly mighty mega megan super acurate track coilover’s 12kg/mm spring rate that he has it seems, so maybe there’s something else going on. I don’t know, obviously I asked what’s his setup. Sorry for even bothering to give any interest, it’s obviously a big fail to bother on son240. You’ll just get shat on for even speaking. Too much diahera and dick swinging. Well whatever 🙂 Typicall son240 stuff. Just asshole to asshole ‘communication’ nothing really productive. Fuck man, I didn’t bother to comment afterwards. Indeed this thread has been turned into gay and its not because of sil8at being a ‘poser’. At least he tried something without calling it gay and he enjoyed it. And by the way im dreaming with my automatic taurus 240, fucken retard. And my tires are bigger than your dick that’s for sure. Also that s14, if they are 245 tires they look beefy as they are stretched whoopie do, regardless larger than the typical 240 owner with 215s who cares, go pick on that? Yay for loserness. And i’ll run 285s only when i need them. None can have a genuine good thread on son240 without some asshole comments to pop up. What’s the point of trying. In the end it’ll be just the big mouth people left to stab each other and bicker with each other when bored. I commend sil8t for trying something different regardless of how the car performed. It’s safe, legal, fun, you learn alot from it, you enjoy doing it and making your car better. No street racing or ricer non-sense… all good fun. ---
**Author:** ![njd07](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9a28c/32.png) [@njd07](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/njd07)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/25 "2008-10-24T13:27:07Z")
wow this retard is back…I thought he was banned. ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/26 "2008-10-24T13:27:57Z")
I actually got the same decal printed to put on my car but it came out too big. I really wanted it because I’m a poser too 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/27 "2008-10-24T13:42:11Z")
> [@Doorriftooo meet?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/doorriftooo-meet/18813/5): > > I actually got the same decal printed to put on my car but it came out too big. > > I really wanted it because I’m a poser too 😉 Oh yah Samson, you’re such a poser. You’ve never even drifted your car on the track. ---
**Author:** ![sil8t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sil8t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sil8t)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/28 "2008-10-24T14:23:40Z")
> [@Doorriftooo meet?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/doorriftooo-meet/18813/5): > > I actually got the same decal printed to put on my car but it came out too big. > > I really wanted it because I’m a poser too 😉 its never too big ---
**Author:** ![kimmerkaze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@kimmerkaze](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kimmerkaze)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/29 "2008-10-24T16:31:55Z")
> [@boning fat chicks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boning-fat-chicks/18753/52): > > Sorry for even bothering to give any interest, it’s obviously a big fail to bother on son240. \*sigh So get the fuck out of here. ---
**Author:** ![Hammer240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hammer240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hammer240sx)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/30 "2008-10-24T19:08:16Z")
Looks like you guys had some fun!!! Andrew, what did that poor cone ever do to you??? Haha look at Eric there, Mr. cool with his KA-T lol!! I’ll be joining you soon buddy, I can’t stay NA forever!! P.S. why do people have to be such douches on this site??? No respect these days!!! ---
**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/31 "2008-10-24T20:10:57Z")
sup mark!! how things going?? anyways! i have been to the HADA event once this year and it was SO much FUN!! i love the ppl that come there with FAST cars but get SLOW times lol!! ---
**Author:** ![sil8t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@sil8t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sil8t)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/32 "2008-10-25T05:46:10Z")
> [@ICE people: single DIN flip out screen.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ice-people-single-din-flip-out-screen/18694/17): > > Looks like you guys had some fun!!! Andrew, what did that poor cone ever do to you??? Haha look at Eric there, Mr. cool with his KA-T lol!! I’ll be joining you soon buddy, I can’t stay NA forever!! > > P.S. why do people have to be such douches on this site??? No respect these days!!! well thats what happens when u live in ur moms basement still… i know for sure we will be going to most of em next year. my buddy with the sk2 picked up a sponsorship (stage 4 racing) for solo1 next year. nitescream the ppl are awsome out there… great atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![roast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/roast/32/5498_2.png) [@roast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/roast)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/33 "2008-10-25T07:38:13Z")
> [@boning fat chicks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boning-fat-chicks/18753/52): > > I wasn’t contradicting myself I was just brainstorming some possibilities, he didn’t say what setup he had. If he has 12/10 setup, then by all means he needs some fatter and grippier rubber eg; r comps cause thats pretty much useless otherwise unless he wants to slide around while overloading the poor lil tires. One could only guess at the typical issues with an s13, without knowing what he has. Secondly s13s have shitty front travel, too much anti-squat in the rear, usually a combination of tricks are used to make it all work. Being lowered is not exactly going to help the front have more travel and prevent further understeer, nor will a shittyly oversprung rear help with an already too much antisquar rear end help with preventing oversteer. A stock s13 understeers just as shittily as this supposingly mighty mega megan super acurate track coilover’s 12kg/mm spring rate that he has it seems, so maybe there’s something else going on. I don’t know, obviously I asked what’s his setup. > > Sorry for even bothering to give any interest, it’s obviously a big fail to bother on son240. You’ll just get shat on for even speaking. Too much diahera and dick swinging. Well whatever 🙂 Typicall son240 stuff. Just asshole to asshole ‘communication’ nothing really productive. Fuck man, I didn’t bother to comment afterwards. > > Indeed this thread has been turned into gay and its not because of sil8at being a ‘poser’. At least he tried something without calling it gay and he enjoyed it. > > And by the way im dreaming with my automatic taurus 240, fucken retard. And my tires are bigger than your dick that’s for sure. > > Also that s14, if they are 245 tires they look beefy as they are stretched whoopie do, regardless larger than the typical 240 owner with 215s who cares, go pick on that? Yay for loserness. And i’ll run 285s only when i need them. > > None can have a genuine good thread on son240 without some asshole comments to pop up. What’s the point of trying. In the end it’ll be just the big mouth people left to stab each other and bicker with each other when bored. > > I commend sil8t for trying something different regardless of how the car performed. It’s safe, legal, fun, you learn alot from it, you enjoy doing it and making your car better. No street racing or ricer non-sense… all good fun. Do you even read what you type? You continue to spout shit about suspension setups but know jack-shit about it. Shut the fuck-up. You’re the last person I want to see complaining about SON. ---
**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/34 "2008-10-25T08:35:46Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![\_Punisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/bb73d2/32.png) [@\_Punisher](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Punisher)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/35 "2008-10-25T09:29:41Z")
drama… ---
**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/36 "2008-10-25T10:46:23Z")
This is what a 285/30/18 s14 looks like 🙂 ![http://v8mongrel.com/240ss/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/car-cropped.jpg](http://v8mongrel.com/240ss/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/car-cropped.jpg) ![http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6927/dscn0702tb0.jpg](http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6927/dscn0702tb0.jpg) ![http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1058/dscn0086dc7.jpg](http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1058/dscn0086dc7.jpg) Naturally not stretched of course. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/37 "2008-10-25T10:55:45Z")
nice tires, ugly wheels and size. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/38 "2008-10-25T12:12:49Z")
> [@I have park place!! Boardwalk and the million is ours!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-park-place-boardwalk-and-the-million-is-ours/18819/5): > > nice tires, ugly wheels and size. and those brake calipers could use a fresh coat of heat dissipating RED paint I mean those brakes are really hard to see ---
**Author:** ![rogerthat240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rogerthat240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rogerthat240)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/39 "2008-10-25T12:20:12Z")
More ugly 😛 ![http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/DSC_4371.jpg](http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/DSC_4371.jpg) 285/30/18 is actually a perfect fit on an s14, it offers awesome grip and yet remains a short-tire, cause everything else becomes a bit too tall for the front of our cars. it’s doable on an s13 as well and J-rho ran 295/30/18 on his s13 for your information. Most SM guys, different autox guys and some track guys run them down in the states and europe. Still unheard of here I guess. Things are kind of slow canada-side, thats why I mostly spend my time talking to guys down in the states and europe. I mean one of the guys (i dont know him well but interacted with him online lol), he ran 275/40/17 front and 295/40/17 with a wing and later a front splitter with only 250whp SR… he was eating 911s, keeping pace with some GT3s, you get the picture. I think that’s the size Don from PDM racing also runs on his SM car That’s why for my car I’m not really caring much about power, it’d be nice down the line about 400whp from an LS V8, but more so concentrating on the overall build of the car. PJ above runs about 350whp from a KAT. He actually runs a ccw rear with 315/30/18s, for your information this is my buddy PJ as in the video 😉 You realize most guys down in the states that run NA KAs run 255/40/17 all around right… It’s funny how most guys up here still run 215s and 225s with modded SRs I’m really looking forward to refining my driving over anything else next year in spring if all goes according to plan for track time, God willing. Driving is the most important no doubt about that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auotx-08/119379/40 "2008-10-25T12:30:15Z")
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