# automatic transmission with paddle shifters.. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 23, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858 "2007-07-23T22:22:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/1 "2007-07-23T22:22:47Z")
vs a regular manual transmission. so i am looking at buying a car that has an option of a automatic transmission with those paddle shifters and i was wondering how they compare to a standard manual transmission, like is it worth it to get it or not are they the same thing besides the automatic part?? i am new to the paddle shifters so i dont know much about them ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/2 "2007-07-23T22:32:30Z")
what car? ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/3 "2007-07-23T22:32:36Z")
unless the car is an M3 or a ferrari… the transfer of power feels just like it would if you started in 1 on an auto and shifted to 2… transfer of power is what makes a manual tranny feel sweet. Im curious if the new corvettes feel like a grand prix with the tiptronic option ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/4 "2007-07-24T04:24:09Z")
[quote=“Joe,post:2,topic:32858"”] what car? [/quote] x2 Some cars use an actual automatic (fluid driven) trans, others use a manual (friction plate driven) box. I’ve driven a few cars with the shifters, it varies. None are quite as much fun for me as a stir-my-own gearbox, but I don’t think I was going quite fast enough to appreciate them either… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/5 "2007-07-24T05:12:50Z")
No clutch pedal no care. My $.02 ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/6 "2007-07-24T05:54:44Z")
automatic tip tronic systems suck… SMG/DSG/F1/E-gear trans for the win ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/7 "2007-07-24T06:12:05Z")
fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/8 "2007-07-24T06:36:23Z")
[quote=“Viper966,post:6,topic:32858"”] automatic tip tronic systems suck… SMG/DSG/F1/E-gear trans for the win [/quote] buy a manual, SMG/DSG is about as fun as an above ground pool ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/9 "2007-07-24T06:37:57Z")
manual for the fun factor ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/10 "2007-07-24T06:43:25Z")
:word: I have no experience with paddle shifters, so feel free to stop reading what I have to say now. Actually, nevermind. I have no first hand experience with them so I’m just going to stop typing now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Schema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@Schema](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Schema)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/11 "2007-07-24T07:07:39Z")
MR2 Spyder Edit: Thought he wanted to know what his options are. I lack teh reading skillz. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/12 "2007-07-24T07:23:47Z")
the car i am looking at is a 07 miata ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/13 "2007-07-24T07:45:10Z")
[quote=“93dx–hatch,post:8,topic:32858"”] buy a manual, SMG/DSG is about as fun as an above ground pool [/quote] have you pushed one around the track? i find it more fun ---
**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/14 "2007-07-24T07:54:27Z")
[quote=“Viper966,post:13,topic:32858"”] have you pushed one around the track? i find it more fun [/quote] it gives “push” a whole new meaning. got gravel? ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/15 "2007-07-24T08:05:55Z")
well think of it like this…the cars arent made to be raced. so they shift slow and smooth as if youre commuting to work…when you get on it, nothings telling it to shift differently so you romp on it…then shift really slow…then get back on it…its pretty weak…and not fun…grow up and get a stick 😛 ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/16 "2007-07-24T08:06:44Z")
[quote=“RedrRocket,post:14,topic:32858"”] it gives “push” a whole new meaning. got gravel? [/quote] zing. ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/17 "2007-07-24T09:20:30Z")
No experience with these either. I call them auto-sticks. I’m a big fan ofthe manual gearbox, but I hear those double clutch or manual devived automatics are getting pretty good. Isn’t the new gti supposed to have a pretty slick auto-stick for an affordable car…??? No idea what they have in the miata, but I do remember watching a youtube video of 2-rx-8’s, one with a manual and one with the paddle shifters. Well anyways the manual freaking WALKED the auto-stick by like 10 car lengths. If the miata’s auto-stick is anything like the rx-8, it robs a lot of power. ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/18 "2007-07-24T14:55:11Z")
My IS300 is an '01 so it was only available in E-Shift auto. Manuals are definitly more fun but the e-shift is better than a regular automatic. My car shifts extremely hard, enough that it jerks the car when you’re at WOT. Now the ISX50’s feel very soft and weak when you use the paddle shifters. I’ve never driven an M3 so I can’t speak for that. Overall if you’re looking for something performance oriented get a manual. I bought my car as a DD and have lived in cities that I’m always stuck in bumper to bumper traffic so I didn’t want a manual. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/19 "2007-07-24T16:45:37Z")
[quote=“Boomin99GT,post:18,topic:32858"”] Overall if you’re looking for something performance oriented get a manual. I bought my car as a DD and have lived in cities that I’m always stuck in bumper to bumper traffic so I didn’t want a manual. [/quote] About what i was going to say. Depends on what your driving in and what your preference is. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858/20 "2007-07-24T16:55:43Z")
I’ve beaten the piss out of a loaner M3 my old boss had, same car as Viper has but stock, and while it wasn’t on a track I can say I was pushing it hard enough that I probably should have been on a track. After about 10 minutes the novelty wore off and I was wishing for a traditional manual. I think I say the same thing in all these threads, but for me having a sports car is not about being .3 seconds faster in the 1/4th or a second faster around a track. That’s what being a professional race car driver is about. For me, it’s about the involvement and challenge that comes with driving a powerful car quickly, and turning the shifter into a video game style “click-click” removes much of the involvement. About the only way I’d consider an SMG is if my daily drive involved a TON of bumper to bumper traffic and my sports car also had to be my DD. There isn’t a “right” answer to this though. It’s about what **you** want. Miata’s are a dime a dozen so I’m sure you can manage to get test drives in both a traditional manual, and the auto-tap-paddle contraption. It’s not like you’re looking at F430’s. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automatic-transmission-with-paddle-shifters/32858.md?page=2)