# Automobile: ZL1 vs GT500 at the strip.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [June 21, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155 "2012-06-21T08:24:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/61 "2012-06-21T18:10:20Z")

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As is mine this yr lol

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/62 "2012-06-21T18:22:27Z")

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> [@Find me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/find-me/49943/16):
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> Not to start shit, but weve been hearing “wait till next year” from the GM camp since 03, and the next year never comes… lol

The problem is that the Camaro will never make more power than the Corvette-Ford does not have a problem as they don’t have a model in the same class as the Corvette.

The solution to anyone in this market is still the same anyway-used ZO6\>Any Mustang/Camaro ever made. Beyond me why anyone would want to own one of those tanks, besides the heritage behind the name I guess.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/63 "2012-06-21T18:27:00Z")

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Cause zo6,s don’t hook at the track without a serious susp !!! U know that Travis , that’s why u were all against racing till ya got the EVO .

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/64 "2012-06-21T18:29:23Z")

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> [@Find me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/find-me/49943/18):
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> Cause zo6,s don’t hook at the track without a serious susp !!! U know that Travis , that’s why u were all against racing till ya got the EVO .

I was ‘against’ racing for other reasons, but this is not the time or place to discuss.

Z’s hook fine at the track at moderate power levels with the right tire and driver.

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**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/65 "2012-06-21T18:54:16Z")

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200 hooks real nice. Good to know I’d beat a ZL1 on the street 🙂 Much less displacement too!

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/66 "2012-06-21T19:25:41Z")

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camaro sucks.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/67 "2012-06-22T05:20:02Z")

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> [@The Happening](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-happening/49944/2):
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> What do you get when you plant shit seeds Randy???
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> 5th Gen Camaros

🤣rofl:rofl

+rep

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/68 "2012-06-22T07:23:59Z")

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> [@The Happening](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-happening/49944/8):
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> LOL about the people complaining about the interiors. Post some pics of YOUR cars interior if you want to talk shit about either of these. and not some bullshit google image either.

hahaha you beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/69 "2012-06-22T07:29:19Z")

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> [@Woo Hoo more white trash coming](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/woo-hoo-more-white-trash-coming/49947/26):
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> hahaha you beat me to it.

EXACTLY. Notice the lack of pics as well…

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/70 "2012-06-22T07:43:10Z")

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> [@Midwest floods may send gas up 15% or approx 61 cents per gallon.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/midwest-floods-may-send-gas-up-15-or-approx-61-cents-per-gallon/49945/8):
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> With the new direct injected 6.2 lt the zr1 power will be in the 7xx range if it all falls into place . Besides the camaro has the power to move it just the car is to heavy so if the **car loses its weight** it goes faster ! Read it quote it understand it whatever ya gotta do !

will never happen. Thanks to sue happy, yuppie ass pussy’s. Just like Merica itself, the cars every year get fatter and more overweight.

Mustang 2012 GT 3650lbs  
2012 SS 3900lbs

2002 Mustang GT 3250lbs  
1998 Camaro SS 3400lbs

1969 Mustang 2981lbs  
1969 Camaro SS 3120lbs

yeah 500+ hp is cool and all… but thats like a fat ass buying bigger jeans every year. Just break the cycle, get the cars on a diet and focus on more than dick swinging power.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/71 "2012-06-22T07:52:09Z")

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black 2013 gt500 totally loaded with glass roof, damn… if the glass roof doesnt make the interior sick, i dont know what does.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/72 "2012-06-22T07:55:21Z")

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/73 "2012-06-22T08:01:16Z")

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I love those.

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/74 "2012-06-22T08:11:33Z")

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trust me, once gm starts doing all that DI stuff and they start changing bodystyles, ford will too. the stang platform is changing in 2015 i believe. it will also have an irs again. fords ecoboost tech will make its way into the stang eventually with a smaller DI v8 and turbos.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/75 "2012-06-22T08:22:44Z")

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ford needs to come up with a vette competitor lineup.

Something totally new.

3150-3200lbs. put the hi-po 302 in it, and have 10+hp over the base vette. Add some aero to push past 200 without taking flight. 2 seater no bs car. $55-70K.

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**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/76 "2012-06-22T16:48:48Z")

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> [@Tim Russert Just died..... :RIP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tim-russert-just-died-rip/49957/5):
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> ford needs to come up with a vette competitor lineup.
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> Something totally new.
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> 3150-3200lbs. put the hi-po 302 in it, and have 10+hp over the base vette. Add some aero to push past 200 without taking flight. 2 seater no bs car. $55-70K.

essentially a far cheaper GT, yes?

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/77 "2012-06-22T18:03:00Z")

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actually KK, i believe the next mustang platform might be just that. a smaller lighter car, with a 302 of course.

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**Author:** ![SOADweskey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/soadweskey/32/6747_2.png) [@SOADweskey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOADweskey)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/78 "2012-06-22T18:59:02Z")

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My biggest problem with this comparison article in general is that they kept talking about the cars having the same base price but as tested the ZL1 cost $58,335 and the GT-500 cost $63,080.

And to get to those prices the Camaro had these features…  
_Suede microfiber package- $500  
Exposed carbon-fiber weave hood insert- $600  
Solid dark gray stripe- $470  
20-inch bright aluminum wheels- $470  
GGT- $1300_

And the GT-500 had these options…  
**_Performance package- $3495_**  
Torsen differential  
Painted forged-aluminum wheels  
Bilstein adjustable dampers  
Unique rear springs, instrument cluster, and shift knob  
**_SVT Track package- $2995_**  
Engine oil cooler   
Differential and transmission coolers w/pumps  
_Leather Recaro seats- $1595_

I would have liked to see if the ZL1 would have better shot if the GT-500 didn’t already have $6k in extra go fast goodies. It also speaks volumes that the ZL1 was able to put the smack down on the road course despite this.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/79 "2012-06-22T19:09:29Z")

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none of those have to do with power output. one MIGHT be able to argue that the torsen made a difference in putting the power down, but still. IMO the ford needed those options in order to be road course ready, where as the camaro already has supermagneticfaggotshocks and shitappletreeseeds from the factory.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automobile-zl1-vs-gt500-at-the-strip/264155/80 "2012-06-22T19:17:47Z")

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I would just buy a used c6 z06 and mop them both up.

but thats just what I would do with my $45k I would spend.

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