# AWD or RWD?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 13, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501 "2007-02-13T13:17:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/41 "2007-02-13T19:29:33Z")

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awd for me

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/42 "2007-02-13T19:51:58Z")

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It’s cute how you guys get all flustered at an open-ended question. :hay: I did it that way intentionally. I figured I’d get more thought out of you guys than if I said “What do you prefer for a fun year 'round daily driver?” 😉

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/43 "2007-02-13T20:28:33Z")

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s2k + Galant VR4 = i like both 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/44 "2007-02-13T20:35:39Z")

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AWD = to much control

RWD FTW

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/45 "2007-02-13T20:37:17Z")

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[quote=“Daddie,post:43,topic:24501"”]

s2k + Galant VR4 = i like both

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75% of your axles are drive axles. Not too shabby. :tup:

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/46 "2007-02-13T21:25:21Z")

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I’d have to say RWD… awd is fun and more practical… in buffalo I’d preffer an awd car…becuase I hate winter cars…  
but if I lived in florida I’d own a rwd car…

lets not forget…fwd has some advantages…like autocross…  
fwd is lighter…and even less drivetrain loss than rwd…  
a good setup fwd car with under 200hp will be better than a rwd car on an autocross course…am I right?

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/47 "2007-02-13T21:46:18Z")

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no, you are not. and you are very general, but you are still not correct.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/48 "2007-02-13T21:48:29Z")

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AWD is much easier for the less skilled to be fast.

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/49 "2007-02-13T21:57:28Z")

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[quote=“sedlmeier101,post:46,topic:24501"”]

I’d have to say RWD… awd is fun and more practical… in buffalo I’d preffer an awd car…becuase I hate winter cars…  
but if I lived in florida I’d own a rwd car…

lets not forget…fwd has some advantages…like autocross…  
fwd is lighter…and even less drivetrain loss than rwd…  
a good setup fwd car with under 200hp will be better than a rwd car on an autocross course…am I right?

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No.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/50 "2007-02-14T09:04:36Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:40,topic:24501"”]

You know, you’re right.

The law of gravity. Aka, all that extra weight for you’re lugging around and only using from a dead stop or in slippery conditions, assuming you have 400hp or less.

The law of friction. Aka, all that extra drivetrain friction, sucking up HP.

The law of balance. Aka, putting more weight in the front, where you don’t want it, ending up with front heavy understeering cars.

And lets not forget Murphy’s law. If it can break it will, and you have a shit load more parts, clutches, and CV’s than a simple RWD.

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Engine power can override all of that but, if you can’t afford power then stick with the limitaions of rear wheel drive.😛

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/51 "2007-02-14T09:07:20Z")

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[quote=“MPD47,post:48,topic:24501"”]

AWD is much easier for the less skilled to be fast.

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So is a car with power and fat sticky tires.  
What is your point?

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/52 "2007-02-14T09:13:16Z")

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there is nothing like squirling out the rear end of a car… nothing. such a rush.

i almost killed myself a few times the first week or so i had the bimmer. sketchhyyyyyy

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/53 "2007-02-14T09:15:56Z")

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rwd for summer car and awd for winter car 😛

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/54 "2007-02-14T09:30:13Z")

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AWD helps a bad driver get out of bad situations.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/55 "2007-02-14T10:19:22Z")

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+1 Thom.

[quote=“AWDrifter,post:50,topic:24501"”]

Engine power can override all of that but, if you can’t afford power then stick with the limitaions of rear wheel drive.😛

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Other than the Veyron, name me ONE AWD supercar.

Hell, look at FIA GT, or ALMS, do you see ANY AWD cars participating?

I’ll give the nod to AWD in Rally but that’s about it.

Fyi, the '80’s transam quattro’s had more advantages than just AWD, and the RS6’s that were in Speed GT were cheater cars. Full tube frame chopped chassis with raised floor pans, opposed to production cars.

Oh yeah, and big sticky tires and high hp RWD is easy to drive to a point. That point being when ANY slip angle is involved then it’s all skill (which is how you should be driving, 1-2 degrees). At which point lap times start to vary by about 10-30 seconds on average over a 1:50 second course.

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**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/56 "2007-02-14T10:27:23Z")

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[quote=“MPD47,post:55,topic:24501"”]

+1 Thom.

Other than the Veyron, name me ONE AWD supercar.

Hell, look at FIA GT, or ALMS, do you see ANY AWD cars participating?

I’ll give the nod to AWD in Rally but that’s about it.

Fyi, the '80’s transam quattro’s had more advantages than just AWD, and the RS6’s that were in Speed GT were cheater cars. Full tube frame chopped chassis with raised floor pans, opposed to production cars.

Oh yeah, and big sticky tires and high hp RWD is easy to drive to a point. That point being when ANY slip angle is involved (which is how you should be driving, 1-2 degrees) at which point lap times start to vary by about 10-30 seconds on average over a 1:50 second course.

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Sooooo what your saying is that you wish your Pcar was awd? :headbang:

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/57 "2007-02-14T10:30:24Z")

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I always knew the education on the Southern Tier was sub par to the rest of WNY.

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**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/58 "2007-02-14T10:35:28Z")

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The AWD Quattro cars in TransAm racing would only put about 10% of the power to the front, they were just superior cars in every other respect as well.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/59 "2007-02-14T11:18:49Z")

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[quote=“AWDrifter,post:50,topic:24501"”]

Engine power can override all of that but, if you can’t afford power then stick with the limitaions of rear wheel drive.😛

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I’ll go back to my WRX example, except lets make it an STi since you seem to think HP makes up for all AWD’s problems.

Take one stock STi, and one where I get to rip ALL the AWD stuff out. No extra diffs, clutches, CV’s, and heavy duty front end.

Hand each of those cars to the Stig, and see which one goes around their test track faster on a dry day. Same HP, but the AWD car is going to be carrying more weight, and more of it over the front wheels where you really don’t want it. If you honestly believe the AWD car is going to be faster around the track you need to look at MPD’s comment about the education system out there 😛

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**Author:** ![Whiteesil80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed655f/32.png) [@Whiteesil80](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Whiteesil80)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awd-or-rwd/24501/60 "2007-02-14T11:43:05Z")

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Yeah I agree about the RWD for the summer and AWD for the winter

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