# Azenis 615's....Can I rotate them? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 7, 2006, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115 "2006-09-07T11:14:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/1 "2006-09-07T11:14:30Z")
I know nothing about tires, and rotational/directional ones. I have two Azenis 615’s and due to bad camber, have worn down on the insides… Not super bad, but worse than the outsides. I know the tread isn’t symmetrical… but can i just have the them rotated/remounted so the good side (on the outside) is now on the inside? I don’t really feel like dropping money on new tires, when i wont even be using them next year. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/2 "2006-09-07T11:19:29Z")
u can go front to rear with out mounting …even remouting is still gonn ahve the warn side on the inner part of the wheel ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/3 "2006-09-07T11:20:28Z")
No. If you look at the sidewall it says in big bold letters “OUTSIDE” and “INSIDE” ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/4 "2006-09-07T11:21:01Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > u can go front to rear with out mounting …even remouting is still gonn ahve the warn side on the inner part of the wheel no i know that. im saying. can i have someone remove the tire from the rim. and then reinstall em…and flip it so the part that is now outside…is on the inside. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/5 "2006-09-07T11:21:29Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > No. If you look at the sidewall it says in big bold letters “OUTSIDE” and “INSIDE” Meh. I was told the only way to get by in life was to “gently break the rules.” ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/6 "2006-09-07T11:24:24Z")
Looks like you don’t need a thread about where to spend that $800 now. Fix camber, new tires. And yeah, I’ll 2nd Joe, Azenis are designed to be run with the side that says OUTSIDE pointing out. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/7 "2006-09-07T11:24:30Z")
yo, tha ka looks sw33t all low too bad you didnt have your TOE adjusted to keep your tires from wearing. used to run -4\* of camber with no problems; however, running the car too low fucks up the toe and would kill tires in 2 months. there are SRR adjustable compensator arms on there so it can be fixed on an alignment rack. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/8 "2006-09-07T11:27:42Z")
```auto ``` > [@Zer0DazE](#): > > yo, tha ka looks sw33t all low > > too bad you didnt have your TOE adjusted to keep your tires from wearing. used to run -4\* of camber with no problems; however, running the car too low fucks up the toe and would kill tires in 2 months. > > there are SRR adjustable compensator arms on there so it can be fixed on an alignment rack. i didnt see any ssr arms anywhere. neither did paul. the arms in question…are they on the fronts or rears? ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/9 "2006-09-07T11:33:09Z")
> [@beckington](#): > > Meh. I was told the only way to get by in life was to “gently break the rules.” That’s not a rule you wanna break, lol ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/10 "2006-09-07T11:34:13Z")
talked to you via aim ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/11 "2006-09-07T12:35:13Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > No. If you look at the sidewall it says in big bold letters “OUTSIDE” and “INSIDE” > [@JayS](#): > > And yeah, I’ll 2nd Joe, Azenis are designed to be run with the side that says OUTSIDE pointing out. It doesn’t matter, I have maxed out about 4 sets of tires by flopping them, that would have been otherwise trash by your standards. Azenis and 'R’s. If you are trying to optimize hydro performance for full tread depth, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/12 "2006-09-07T13:00:18Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > It doesn’t matter, I have maxed out about 4 sets of tires by flopping them, that would have been otherwise trash by your standards. Azenis and 'R’s. > > If you are trying to optimize hydro performance for full tread depth, maybe. Well, considering he has these on his STREET car and is not using them for autocross/track days I think hydro performance should be a consideration. ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/13 "2006-09-07T15:53:39Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > It doesn’t matter, I have maxed out about 4 sets of tires by flopping them, that would have been otherwise trash by your standards. Azenis and 'R’s. > > If you are trying to optimize hydro performance for full tread depth, maybe. Yup, there isn’t anything in the construction of the tires that prevents them from being mounted the other way. There were some older tires that were like that, but the Falkens will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/14 "2006-09-07T18:08:38Z")
> [@beckington](#): > > Meh. I was told the only way to get by in life was to “gently break the rules.” :lolham: asymmetrical tires are NOT designed to be switched but feel free to do it, and then drive the car assuming it will handle the same and then enjoy guardrail/ditch/oncoming traffic ---
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/15 "2006-09-07T18:37:58Z")
> [@JDMR2](#): > > :lolham: > > asymmetrical tires are NOT designed to be switched > > but feel free to do it, and then drive the car assuming it will handle the same > > and then enjoy guardrail/ditch/oncoming traffic It will handle fine, the only difference is in the tread. The only thing that will be affected is wet performance, and not by that much since 615’s don’t have much of a wet weather tread. ---
**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/16 "2006-09-07T19:04:12Z")
yea, i was referring more to the wet traction i think this is his only car, so the first hydro experience wouldnt be too fun… ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/17 "2006-09-07T20:26:55Z")
If they are already worn to the point that they need to be flipped, wet performance will already be mediocre even if you run them the right way. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/18 "2006-09-07T22:15:42Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#): > > If they are already worn to the point that they need to be flipped, wet performance will already be mediocre even if you run them the right way. He’s got a point there… ---
**Author:** ![NA-KING](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/na-king/32/7515_2.png) [@NA-KING](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NA-KING)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/19 "2006-09-07T22:25:18Z")
> [@beckington](#): > > I don’t really feel like dropping money on new tires, when i wont even be using them next year. :word: I wouldn’t even worry about it untill next year bro… ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115/20 "2006-09-08T06:10:36Z")
> [@NA-KING](#): > > :word: I wouldn’t even worry about it untill next year bro… :wstupid: kill them this season, and wait for a clearence sale somewhere. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/azenis-615s-can-i-rotate-them/17115.md?page=2)