# b16a or b18b?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 14, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213 "2010-01-14T15:58:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![ctspoolintsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ctspoolintsi/32/7456_2.png) [@ctspoolintsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ctspoolintsi)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/1 "2010-01-14T15:58:31Z")

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Im about to do a swap on my honda im wondering which i should go with. i figure there are plenty of honda people on here that could point me in right direction. Here are my options. Cars a 95 civic 1.6vtec now.  
I plan to turbo what ever motor i do.

B16a 92-95

B18b

and what trans should i use. i know not to use LS. My goal is 280ish on stock motor with boost. then next winter i want to build the motor.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/2 "2010-01-14T16:04:12Z")

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b18b  
gsr trans

b16s are teh suck if you’re boosting

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**Author:** ![AndyB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/3 "2010-01-14T16:08:18Z")

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^ I cant wait to prove you wrong! but of course still waiting for my head to be down FML!

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**Author:** ![ctspoolintsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ctspoolintsi/32/7456_2.png) [@ctspoolintsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ctspoolintsi)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/4 "2010-01-14T16:08:59Z")

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It deff going turbo.

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**Author:** ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/5 "2010-01-14T16:25:43Z")

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B18 Block+B16 Head+Gsr Trans= Solid

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/6 "2010-01-14T16:38:44Z")

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for right now i would get the b18b, buy a b18b long block and a gsr trans as it will be a good foundation for when you turbo it, and when you build it all you need is a b16/gsr head for a killer combo

dont get me wrong, b16’s arent bad little motors but a 1.8l will beat it in every area

b16stock vs b18bstock will be a close race, get the gsr trans with the b18b and it will pull on the b16 all day

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/7 "2010-01-14T18:44:01Z")

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> [@AndyB](#):
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> ^ I cant wait to prove you wrong! but of course still waiting for my head to be down FML!

only reason i say that is because of the torque of a b18 platform vs a b16, and spool time

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**Author:** ![ctspoolintsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ctspoolintsi/32/7456_2.png) [@ctspoolintsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ctspoolintsi)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/8 "2010-01-15T08:10:43Z")

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ok found a motor for pretty cheap i think im going to jump on it. Just couple questions.

B18b auto and b18b manual. are they the same motor ? because i know on a dsm the auto and manual have some differences like injector size is different. cams are different. stuff like that.

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**Author:** ![torontoJDM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontojdm/32/5416_2.png) [@torontoJDM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/torontoJDM)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/9 "2010-01-15T09:04:15Z")

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b18b!

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/10 "2010-01-15T11:01:52Z")

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auto and manual are the same except the trans

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**Author:** ![esford90](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/esford90/32/5314_2.png) [@esford90](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/esford90)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/11 "2010-01-15T11:42:42Z")

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yeah for boost deffinatly b18b to start off

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**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/12 "2010-01-15T12:56:43Z")

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ive got a b18b bottom end with a b16 head and an ls trans. i love the ls trans in my car but i will be taking it apart to rebuild and put a gsr 5th gear in. but definitely go with the b18b to start.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16a-or-b18b/78213/13 "2010-01-15T14:52:19Z")

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^^ the gsr final drive would be a better investment than the gsr 5th,

if anything the best combo is b16 1-4 gsr 5th with 4.4 final with of course a nice lsd
