# B18c1 swap into 97 civic ex

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**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [August 25, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b18c1-swap-into-97-civic-ex/199238 "2008-08-25T17:27:01Z")
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### Author: ![Bswaptcivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@Bswaptcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bswaptcivic)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b18c1-swap-into-97-civic-ex/199238/28 "2008-09-16T20:59:08Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 Toronto Maple Leafs Season Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-toronto-maple-leafs-season-thread/36506/101):
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> This is exactly what I keep bringing up. Adding an IM/TB on an internally stock motor will HURT the power curve with the exception of really high RPM. Every time I say that people get pissed. It’s been proven time and time again, do your research.

and this is true, same as putting on a header, test pipe, or even cat-back exhaust. HOWEVER, my point was that the skunk2 I/M is basically a knockoff of an OEM ITR intake manifold, since the type-r manifold doesn’t bolt up to a gsr head obviously, your best bet for getting around the goofy gsr manifold is the S2.

> [@Official MythBusters "PLANE on a CONVEYOR" episode PARTY!!! (12/12/07 @ 8pm)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mythbusters-plane-on-a-conveyor-episode-party-12-12-07-8pm/37453/78):
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> I think he’d be better off saving his pennies for some cams. This is pretty much just my opinion, so if someone knows definitively that there are big gains in the TB/IM for a stock N/A GSR I’d love to hear about it.

you won’t see the full potential of cams without a good intake mani/throttle body combo. so really it doesn’t matter where his pennies should go cuz it’s not a one or the other thing. it’s a buy both and do it once thing.

it’s not always about power either, adding bolt on parts to an internally stock N/A honda motor is like trying to fill a swimming pool with a squirt gun. maybe he wants a better looking intake manifold to clean up his engine bay, who knows.

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