# Bad bike accident on the 400N near Transit.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 20, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373 "2012-03-20T19:34:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/81 "2012-03-21T12:04:46Z")

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> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
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> I have to agree here. I tag these people as the ones that feel the need to wear there icon jacket everywhere and carry thier helmet around.

Most leather jackets are $250+. Depending on where you park your bike, most people don’t want to just leave a jacket chilling on a spot that they can’t keep an eye on it. Most people who carry around helmets want attention since most bikes have helmet locks. I know a few people who’s bikes don’t have helmet locks tho so they sometimes are stuck carrying it if its in a questionable area.

My only argument for LEDs is bikes are hard to see as it is. From the side, you have one 1" circle that is your side marker and typically don’t have any other lights. LEDs do provide a bit more visibility along with loud pipes but there is always people who do things to fit in and have that LOOK AT ME attitude and some people who just enjoy working on something they think looks cool in their own minds.

The article said he helmet flew off. I wonder if she snapped it with the quick snap and didn’t strap it in. Could have been the big difference here between living and dying which is sad as well.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/82 "2012-03-21T12:08:35Z")

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> [@sasquatch](#):
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> No. Someday I’ll have kids and I’ll teach them the same thing.
> 
> I rode my friends bike once a few years ago. First time out, and first time ever on a bike, I pretty much went wot to ~150 because I didn’t realize how fast they picked up speed. While it was a huge adrenaline rush, I knew my lack of self control sometimes would only end bad. Never rode a bike since

^ This!!!

I know I cant get a bike for several reasons. My family, 2 wheels, and an engine… dont go together. Also, I am way to big an adrenaline seeker and would not be able to control myself. My controlling is not getting a bike in the first place. To many others should follow in my steps but decide not to and it ends badly.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/83 "2012-03-21T12:17:04Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> The article said he helmet flew off. I wonder if she snapped it with the quick snap and didn’t strap it in. Could have been the big difference here between living and dying which is sad as well.

From channel 4…

> Police say both Ayer and Olsen were wearing helmets at the time of the crash. Olsen’s helmet came off during the crash, but officials say she didn’t die from head injuries.

So sounds like the helmet didn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![ChevelleGrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@ChevelleGrl](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ChevelleGrl)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/84 "2012-03-21T12:18:30Z")

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My condolences to the friends and family… ☹

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/85 "2012-03-21T12:56:14Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> From channel 4…
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> So sounds like the helmet didn’t matter.

Interesting. One report seemed to make it a point that her helmet flew off when they crashed so I thought maybe someone snapped it and didnt strap it on properly.

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**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/86 "2012-03-21T13:09:40Z")

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So sad. Be safe out there everyone.

Like I put in the other post, it’s gonna be a long season for this sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/87 "2012-03-21T13:10:59Z")

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> [@97FormulaWS-6](#):
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> Too bad your Girlfriend drives like an insane person!!!

Well, we had a little talk about that. I tell you what, she is really putting in an effort to be more defensive. I’m proud of her for changing her bad “habit.”

It’s just not worth it.

Back on topic…RIP ☹

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/88 "2012-03-21T13:49:12Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Joe Ayer,29 from cheektowaga. Treated and released so looks like he’s gonna be fine.

I understand he was being an asshat but I feel terribly for the mental anguish this kid is going to feel for the rest of his life. One stupid mistake and this is what can happen.

What an awful situation all around. So tragic. RIP.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/89 "2012-03-21T14:04:33Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> Most leather jackets are $250+. Depending on where you park your bike, most people don’t want to just leave a jacket chilling on a spot that they can’t keep an eye on it. Most people who carry around helmets want attention since most bikes have helmet locks. I know a few people who’s bikes don’t have helmet locks tho so they sometimes are stuck carrying it if its in a questionable area.
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> My only argument for LEDs is bikes are hard to see as it is. From the side, you have one 1" circle that is your side marker and typically don’t have any other lights. LEDs do provide a bit more visibility along with loud pipes but there is always people who do things to fit in and have that LOOK AT ME attitude and some people who just enjoy working on something they think looks cool in their own minds.
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> The article said he helmet flew off. I wonder if she snapped it with the quick snap and didn’t strap it in. Could have been the big difference here between living and dying which is sad as well.

I understand, my leather was $400 ish. Neither of my bikes have a helmet lock, but I won’t take my bike to a questioble area. This is just excuses. You honestly expect me to belive that he had LED’s for better visibility?  
:choda:

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/90 "2012-03-21T14:39:12Z")

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Damn this is terrible to hear ☹ with every bike accident and death related to bikes i inch further and further away from ever owning one.

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**Author:** ![AngryHero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/angryhero/32/7495_2.png) [@AngryHero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AngryHero)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/91 "2012-03-21T16:11:57Z")

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> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
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> I understand, my leather was $400 ish. Neither of my bikes have a helmet lock, but I won’t take my bike to a questioble area.

There are scumbags EVERYWHERE. I often will take it with me if im running in for under 5 minutes to a store if its not in sight. Its just quicker sometimes

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**Author:** ![Hybridevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hybridevo/32/6189_2.png) [@Hybridevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hybridevo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/92 "2012-03-21T20:54:01Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> We met up with the other girl at the hospital. They’re roommates. Turns out she was on the Honda and Chelsea (one that was killed) was on the R6. She had went out riding with this guy a couple times this week cause she just got her bike permit and he was gonna teach her to ride…this time he brought his buddy to take her friend. They were fucking around in the right lane and a truck merged over ahead of them. They were coming up on him super fast so they went to slow down. The one bike did so fine, the one she was on locked up the rear. The driver went flying over the guardrail, she went flying into it. Fucking sucks.

I HATE reading posts like this… I’ve known a few people that have died on bikes the past couple years. Honestly, coming from a sportbike rider, sporties shouldn’t be legal on the road, they are track bikes which is why there are SO many accidents every year with them. It’s WAY too easy for anyone to get all the confidence in the world. In this case as someone previously stated, they were riding two-up. This bike was not designed to be ridden with a passenger which is probably why he couldn’t slow down. If your gonna cruise with people get a cruiser, if you want a sportbike, race it at a damn track, not with a passenger on the back down the thruway.

Let’s hope we don’t all have to read another post like this in 2012! Stay safe bikers and car’s, LOOK OUT FOR US!!!

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/93 "2012-03-21T21:03:18Z")

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^disagree.

Responsibility falls on the shoulder of the rider, passenger, and people who share the road … “Guns don’t kill people” mentality exists here.

SS bikes have better handling, stopping, acceleration, than other bikes on the road, so I’ll argue they are safer than 99% of the 2 wheeled vehicles on the road. The difference is in the area between the riders ears. Or lack of substance filling that area.

RIP

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**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/94 "2012-03-21T21:36:25Z")

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i just started riding this season and started going on the highway recently. I was already a cautious driver before this (staying out of blind spots, not following closely, ect)

IMO if you are coming up on a car/truck fast especially in the right lane, and you are expecting them to stay in their lane that is one hell of an assumption.

its one thing to run through the gears when its clear ahead but I can’t believe people do this kind of stuff all the time (especially with another persons life and weight raising the stakes)

RIP for the girl, its too bad this asshole wasn’t the one not walking away from this

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/95 "2012-03-21T21:49:09Z")

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I don’t think i could ever deal with being the cause of someone elses death… unless i actually tried to kill them.  
i have gotten cut off before in mid-day, with the car FACING me turning into a parking lot, while i was going under the speed limit. People are fucking stupid. This happened like 5 times, twice within 10seconds of each other, to the point where i was sideways down a road with my brakes locked, smoking tires and contemplating if i should jump off or dive onto their hood.

although i personally loved riding my bike by myself, i absolutely hated driving with groups of people larger than 3, or with a passenger

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/96 "2012-03-21T22:44:09Z")

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[http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/erie/victim-snaps-pic-hours-before-crash](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/erie/victim-snaps-pic-hours-before-crash)

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/97 "2012-03-22T04:25:49Z")

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If there is any truth to that, and he was going remotely near that speed, then fuck that asshole.

And fuck everyone who rides like that. This is a sad thread, and I’m sorry for shitting it up, but I drive the thruway at least a few hours each day, and every single warm day I see shit heads on sport bikes doing stupid shit. I’m absolutely disgusted with most sport bike riders, and frankly, most riders in general.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/98 "2012-03-22T04:45:21Z")

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^Sadly, I am too.

I ride my own ride, and to be honest, I’m okay with that.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/99 "2012-03-22T05:10:49Z")

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Since most won’t notice the link or won’t click on it…

> …It’s a haunting premonition. Two hours before 24-year-old Chelsea Olsen died in a motorcycle crash, **she posted this picture on her Facebook page, with the caption: “We got a need for speed.”**

> West Seneca Police Lt. Edward Baker said, “We do have reports from witnesses that they were traveling at a high rate of speed. Based on our early investigation, it does look like that was the case.”

> In fact, according to sources, the bike Olsen was riding on **was flying up Route 400 at over 120 MPH** Tuesday night. The driver, 29-year-old Joseph Ayer of Cheektowaga, came up on a pickup truck. The sources tell News 4 the truck driver tried to change lanes, but couldn’t get out of the way fast enough.

> Ayer’s bike slid underneath it, and Olsen was thrown, striking two guiderail posts with so much force, they broke…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-bike-accident-on-the-400n-near-transit/221373/100 "2012-03-22T05:11:35Z")

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Shocking witnesses and cops all say he was breaking the speed limit before the accident.

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