# Bad crash in Clarence **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 2, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609 "2009-11-02T07:45:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/21 "2009-11-02T09:58:39Z")
Well at least we didn’t pick the same picture… ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/22 "2009-11-02T09:59:56Z")
wtf is that? a towne car? ---
**Author:** ![Muckman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@Muckman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muckman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/23 "2009-11-02T10:04:50Z")
Wow so the sentra and the bodies ended up in that side yard? ---
**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/24 "2009-11-02T10:18:36Z")
My buddy lives next door to the house, sucks that this had to happen ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/25 "2009-11-02T10:28:09Z")
> [@JayS"](#): > > On my way to work this morning I noticed a bunch of cars at house around the corner with about 10 kids standing around outside. Now I wonder if it’s related to this. > The dead were identified as Viktor Shapiro, 18, of Amherst, the driver of the Sentra; and passengers Mark Brown, 19, of Getzville; Amanda Slisz, 16, of Amherst; and **Megan Schnorr, 16, of Amherst.** Just did a reverse lookup by address of the house and the last name is Schnorr on the phone listing. Had a bad feeling about it this morning based on expressions and body language of the people standing around and I guess this confirms it. ---
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/26 "2009-11-02T10:30:27Z")
> [@newman](#): > > wtf is that? > > a towne car? That’s a Hyundai XG300/350. obviously not involved in this accident. ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/27 "2009-11-02T11:07:03Z")
“The passengers in van are identified as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60’s and reported in stable condition at ECMC.” That’s all I care about. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/28 "2009-11-02T11:14:05Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > “The passengers in van are identified as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60’s and reported in stable condition at ECMC.” > > That’s all I care about. That is pretty short sighted. I am sure that the other 4 went out with the intention of dying right? :bloated: God you suck. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/29 "2009-11-02T11:17:04Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > “The passengers in van are identified as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60’s and reported in stable condition at ECMC.” > > That’s all I care about. you are a stupid person. Kids do dumb shit. They don’t deserve to die. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/30 "2009-11-02T11:23:00Z")
> [@paulysplitx](#): > > This is right down the road from where I work. Its sad to hear. x 2 I’m not fae from it either. I’m glad the little kids where ok at the house. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/31 "2009-11-02T11:34:15Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > That is pretty short sighted. I am sure that the other 4 went out with the intention of dying right? :bloated: > > God you suck. especially the passengers in the sedan… ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/32 "2009-11-02T11:49:12Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > “The passengers in van are identified as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60’s and reported in stable condition at ECMC.” > > That’s all I care about. Its actually the parents of a coworker of mine. Pretty shitty news to start off the day. ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/33 "2009-11-02T12:33:19Z")
> [@vq30de](#): > > you are a stupid person. Kids do dumb shit. They don’t deserve to die. They don’t deserve to kill anybody either, that’s why I was happy these two people are alive and in stable condition. And don’t forget, feel free to come up to Brennan’s, I’ll be there around 8! ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/34 "2009-11-02T12:44:12Z")
wow this is crazy, mark brown used to play paintball with me at tsunami back in the day and he wasnt such a bad kid. His rehab definetly didnt work though, when I was at my buddies apt putting his Z back to stock before he sold it he just walked up out of nowhere and started talking to us about the craziest shit, he was on something im sure. I find it hard to believe they werent at least boozing that night ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/35 "2009-11-02T13:11:55Z")
> [@newman](#): > > wtf is that? > > a towne car? hyundai XG350 ---
**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/36 "2009-11-02T13:12:25Z")
I live down the street. They have been fighting for a signal at that corner since before I moved to Clarence (9 years ago). I take that same route to work. If that kid was blowing the stop sign that van was doing at least 55 seeing as that is the speed limit there. Feel bad for the family on the corner where the bodies landed on the front lawn. Shitty situation all around. As far as the news saying booze was not in play…lets be serous. There is no such thing as a road side toxicology test and I highly doubt there was an autopsy done before mid day today. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/37 "2009-11-02T13:25:32Z")
> [@ShiftDead](#): > > I live down the street. They have been fighting for a signal at that corner since before I moved to Clarence (9 years ago). The stupid thing is that now they’ll probably get the useless signal. If you’re going to run a stop sign at 50+ mph you’re probably going to run a red light too. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/38 "2009-11-02T13:27:18Z")
ehhhhh, i think i may have, to my knowledge, inadvertently run about 2 redlights in my life. But I have accidentally ran a fair amount more stop signs, especially on country roads. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/39 "2009-11-02T13:27:51Z")
What would piss me off is if someone tries to sue the town for negligence… ---
**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609/40 "2009-11-02T13:43:42Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > The stupid thing is that now they’ll probably get the useless signal. If you’re going to run a stop sign at 50+ mph you’re probably going to run a red light too. Probably not. at most they will get a flashing yellow/red light like the corner of Salt and County. > [@newman](#): > > What would piss me off is if someone tries to sue the town for negligence… Never gonna happen. Especially when the toxicology screens come back positive for something. The stop sign is blatantly visible and there is even another sign before the stop sign itself warning you that there is a stop ahead. :jam: :burnin: :burnout: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-crash-in-clarence/75609.md?page=3)