# Bailout plans **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209 "2009-02-18T07:01:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/1 "2009-02-18T07:01:13Z")
So here is what GM and Chrysler came up with: GM AUTO RESCUE PLAN Cash aid sought - $16.6bn Job cuts - 47,000 Production cut - 5 plants Sales target 2009 - 11.5 to 12m Car models axed - 12 Chrysler auto rescue plan Cash aid sought - $5bn Job cuts - 3,000 Production cut - 1 shift Sales target 2009 - 10.1m Car models axed - 3 So apparently Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, and Hummer are all cut leaving GM with: Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC. On Chrysler’s side of things they are cutting three models: PT cruiser, Dodge Durango and Chrysler aspen. Definitely not the way I would have done it, but its a start. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7893574.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7893574.stm) ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/2 "2009-02-18T07:04:59Z")
So GM’s receiving almost 1000x what they plan to sell in 2009 and still have to cut 50k people loose? Does this strike anyone else as odd? Where the fuck is all this money going?? ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/3 "2009-02-18T07:23:08Z")
> [@pros/cons: Mazda Vs VW](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/57): > > So GM’s receiving almost 1000x what they plan to sell in 2009 and still have to cut 50k people loose? > > Does this strike anyone else as odd? > > Where the fuck is all this money going?? I’ve been asking that for a while. ---
**Author:** ![smithsteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smithsteg/32/6379_2.png) [@smithsteg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smithsteg)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/4 "2009-02-18T08:59:27Z")
i have never heard of a aspen ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/5 "2009-02-18T09:26:22Z")
> [@Nice little places to eat lunch?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nice-little-places-to-eat-lunch/14357/14): > > i have never heard of a aspen It’s a wierd looking suv/minivan. ---
**Author:** ![smithsteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smithsteg/32/6379_2.png) [@smithsteg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smithsteg)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/6 "2009-02-18T09:30:40Z")
thanks ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/7 "2009-02-18T09:32:52Z")
LOL. GM would be closing 5 plants, when Chrysler would only be cutting one shift lol. ---
**Author:** ![FMFGSX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@FMFGSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FMFGSX)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/8 "2009-02-18T09:58:02Z")
> [@pros/cons: Mazda Vs VW](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/57): > > Where the fuck is all this money going?? Pockets? ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/9 "2009-02-18T10:12:11Z")
> [@fat kid goes down](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fat-kid-goes-down/14319/67): > > It’s a wierd looking suv/minivan. its a durango you assclowns ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/10 "2009-02-18T11:08:54Z")
Ok im not a total economic genius or anything, and I really havent been following the whole bailout of the entire US economy joke bs but I honestly think that if this money was given to the consumers rather than these stupid ginormous companies who piss away more money in one persons annual bonus than i make in 10 years then the economy would get batter. The government is not fixing anything just prolonging the crash ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/11 "2009-02-18T18:07:48Z")
This entire episode is bullshit. Let them rot. Also, rape those CEOs who got bailout for bonuses. That’s ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/12 "2009-02-18T18:12:12Z")
yeah i thought executives complaining about only getting a $200000 bonus was just ridiculous. I love paying money to make the rich richer while things get harder for me ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/13 "2009-02-18T18:22:18Z")
Let them fail, it’s natural capitalist selection and throw the CEO’s in jail. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/14 "2009-02-18T18:28:20Z")
GM needs to cut GMC. Why have a brand that sells absolutely nothing but rebadged Chevy’s? ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/15 "2009-02-18T19:48:55Z")
wow. um. just wow.^ ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/16 "2009-02-18T19:50:06Z")
> [@Montoya](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/montoya/14316/38): > > GM needs to cut GMC. Why have a brand that sells absolutely nothing but rebadged Chevy’s? :wtf ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/17 "2009-02-18T19:51:23Z")
gm needs to get rid of gm so that gm isnt selling gm’s under the name gm, that way chevy could sell chevy’s somehow without gm. thats how i read it. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/18 "2009-02-18T19:52:07Z")
:rofl ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/19 "2009-02-19T02:06:02Z")
> [@Want to do something different to the M....opinons needed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/want-to-do-something-different-to-the-m-opinons-needed/14338/107): > > wow. um. just wow.^ Well GMC doesnt make one truck that Chevy doesnt. Why make two identical lines of trucks and market two lines? Costs could be cut by just making Chevy’s and only marketing Chevy’s. GMC= Generic Made Chevy > [@Hotels in Cancun](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hotels-in-cancun/14402/3): > > gm needs to get rid of gm so that gm isnt selling gm’s under the name gm, that way chevy could sell chevy’s somehow without gm. thats how i read it. I didnt say GM. I said GMC. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209/20 "2009-02-19T04:22:23Z")
I agree with gingerface [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bailout-plans/242209.md?page=2)