# Barak Hussein Obama - Truths

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Statements made by Obama that have been proven wrong  
And #6 is interesting. Obama is barely Black

1.) Selma Got Me Born - WRONG - Your parents felt safe  
enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your  
birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Se lma’  
for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its  
various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - WRONG - He was a privileged,  
well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan  
Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - WRONG - He was  
part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments  
Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - WRONG -  
Your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in  
attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in  
Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The  
current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to  
overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law.Your  
half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga’s follower. You  
interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to  
Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for  
verification of that…and for more.  
Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and  
tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga  
lost the elections, his followers have burned  
Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and  
children alive in a Christian church where they took  
shelter… Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election  
process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what  
you get. No one wan ts to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - WRONG -  
She does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own  
inter views. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow  
her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - WRONG - Your name is  
Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means  
‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic  
and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If  
elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not  
the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50%  
Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and  
6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack  
Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s  
family was mainly Arabs… Barack Hussein Obama’s father  
was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his  
father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab,  
not African Negro).

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - WRONG - You practiced it  
daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and  
kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you  
ch ange, so you could run for office.  
4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in  
islam’’

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - WRONG - You were  
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic  
Studies for making faces (check your own book).  
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year  
ago: Mr.Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic  
call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a  
remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give  
Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr.Obama described the call  
to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at  
sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is  
talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is  
being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash  
troubling facts.’

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - WRONG - Not one teacher  
says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign  
Experience - WRONG - You were there from the ages of 6 to  
10, and couldn’t even speak the language .What did you  
learn, … how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - WRONG - Except for  
Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you  
have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO  
experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - WRONG

- You were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama,  
no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify -  
your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - WRONG -  
Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book.  
It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -  
WRONG - Life has yet to find the article you mention in your  
book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.  
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In '08 -  
WRONG - Here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you  
would not have enough experience by then, and you are all  
about having experience first.

16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate

- WRONG - They are common for YOU.And not many others  
have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - WRONG - Only when caught by church  
groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - WRONG - You were a senior  
lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - WRONG - You were a  
senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - WRONG -  
You didn’t write it, introduce it, change it, or create  
it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - WRONG - It took  
just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - WRONG - Your bill was  
rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all  
regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon,  
from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - WRONG - As of  
March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet  
to be released, exposing all the special interests pork  
hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - WRONG -  
You were part of a large group of people who remedied  
Altgeld Gardens .You failed to mention anyone else but  
yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - WRONG - Your 111  
economic policies were just combined into a proposal which  
lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - WRONG - Even  
your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on  
your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - WRONG -They  
were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their  
creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid  
for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA -  
WRONG - The Candian Government issued the names and a memo  
of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - WRONG - You missed the Iran  
Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali  
Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - WRONG - You said let the  
delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - WRONG - You prefer  
caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a  
public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - WRONG - You  
passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - WRONG - You used  
tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - WRONG - You take loads of  
it.

35.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - WRONG - You have over 47  
lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - WRONG

- Your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one  
afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - WRONG - You  
weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted  
to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - WRONG

- Your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who  
don’t have to buy it.

‘Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat’  
Who does not understand, should either learn, or be silent.

Recently, Fox News stated that Barack Obama had made the  
statement, in a speech, that his uncle helped liberate the  
Jews from Auswitch Concentration Camp at the end of WW II.

WRONG: Obama does not have an uncle, as his mother, who is  
white, had no brothers. His father’s people are not  
Americans. And Auswitch Concentration Camp was liberated by  
the Russians, not the Americans, as Auschwitz is in Poland  
and American troops were never there. (This hasn’t been  
carried in the general media which is overlooking  
Obama’s ‘misstatements.’)

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/2 "2008-09-18T09:36:24Z")

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didnt you post this like 3 times already lol

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/3 "2008-09-18T09:39:02Z")

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> [@Laura00WS6"](#):
>
> didnt you post this like 3 times already lol

nope… this is new

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/4 "2008-09-18T11:19:59Z")

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> [@Ariel Atom 3 by Autocar - first test drive.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ariel-atom-3-by-autocar-first-test-drive/37937/3):
>
> nope… this is new

i’ve already seen this, verbatim, on this site at least once before.

> **[Obama's 50 Lies / Obama Not Exactly](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obamas-50-lies/)**
>
> List documents fifty lies told by Barack Obama.

and, here:

[http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp)

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/5 "2008-09-18T11:32:48Z")

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Bottom line is he is a piece of shit… 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/6 "2008-09-18T11:45:57Z")

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> [@FLR SCCA Winter Road Rally Schedule!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flr-scca-winter-road-rally-schedule/37537/23):
>
> Bottom line is he is a piece of shit… 🙂

this is the on-topic forum.

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/7 "2008-09-18T14:14:42Z")

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> [@FLR SCCA Winter Road Rally Schedule!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flr-scca-winter-road-rally-schedule/37537/23):
>
> Bottom line is he is a piece of shit… 🙂

> [@SEMA 2007 Las Vegas Pictures Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sema-2007-las-vegas-pictures-thread/37918/16):
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> this is the on-topic forum.

How much more “on-topic” can you get? … He is a piece of shit

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/8 "2008-09-18T20:18:23Z")

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i think its funny that his wife went to Princeton for free and the whole time she was there protested, bitched, and moaned about how African Americans were treated poorly on campus. 150k for free and shes being mistreated? :sadwavey:

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/9 "2008-09-19T04:14:28Z")

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> [@FLR SCCA Winter Road Rally Schedule!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flr-scca-winter-road-rally-schedule/37537/22):
>
> i’ve already seen this, verbatim, on this site at least once before.
> 
> [Obama's 50 Lies / Obama Not Exactly | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp)
> 
> and, here:
> 
> [http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp)

so out of 50 about 11 were said to be false… 🤣

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/10 "2008-09-19T06:08:43Z")

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Here are my reasons for not voting for him

_Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee for President, first met Wright and joined his church in the 1980s, while he was working as a community organizer in Chicago before attending Harvard Law School. Wright officiated at the wedding ceremony of Barack and Michelle Obama, as well as their children’s baptism. The title of Obama’s memoir, The Audacity of Hope, was inspired by one of Wright’s sermons._

Wright was scheduled to give the public invocation before Obama’s presidential announcement, but Obama withdrew the invitation the night before the event. Wright wrote a rebuttal letter to the editor disputing the characterization of the account as reported in an article in The New York Times.

In 2007 Wright was appointed to Barack Obama’s African American Religious Leadership Committee, a group of over 170 national black religious leaders who supported Obama’s bid for the Democratic nomination; however, it was announced in March 2008 that Wright was no longer serving as a member of this group.

If I went to church and it was lead by a person in the KKK I doubt one black person would vote for me. Sorry but you spend that much time in this type of environment you hate something. Plus Wright embraces Black Ideological Theology. Here are some excerpts from some of the books on it.

_“Racism is a complete denial of the Incarnation and thus of Christianity…If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist (or “the principalities and powers”), the white church seems to be a manifestation of it. It was the white “Christian” church which took the lead in establishing slavery as an institution and segregation as a pattern in society by sanctioning all-white congregations.”_ [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 73]

_“Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God’s love.”_ [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]

Bill Ayers - why would I vote for someone that has been in this mans house? Honestly. Little idea of what he did.

_In 1969 he co-founded the militant radical left organization Weatherman, which was active during the 1960s and 1970s, and was one of its top leaders, as was his wife, Bernardine Dohrn._

_Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972._

Then Obamas description of his dealing with Ayers-

_This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis._

I don’t see the below as being a guy that just lives in your neighborhood.

_Ayers and Dohrn hosted a “meet-and-greet” political meeting for Obama at their home in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, where the Ayers and the Obamas lived. (The meeting has also been called a fundraising event.) It was at this meeting that then State Senator Alice Palmer introduced Barack Obama as her chosen candidate for the 1996 Democratic primary. Although the exact date of the meeting is not known, it was sometime in the second half of 1995, according to Ben Smith, a reporter for The Politico._

Obama served as president of the board of directors for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a large education-related nonprofit organization Ayers was instrumental in starting. The board disbursed grants to schools and raised private matching funds while Ayers worked with the operational arm of the effort. Both attended some board meetings in common starting in 1995, retreats, and at least one news conference together as the education program started. They continued to attend meetings together during the 1995-2001 period when the program was operating.

Then you have the whole Muslim thing. I could really care less if if he is or was or whatever. Just be honest about it. If there are neighbors, childhood friends saying you went to the mosque for prayer, and a school record showing you using a different name. Supposedly it also shows his faith listed as Muslim. I cant make it out but its a bad copy. Just fess up to it.

And how can you get away with this. I mean honestly. You in my eyes are not even an American if you can not put your hand over your heart during the national anthem.

![http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/anthem.jpg](http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/anthem.jpg)

And finally gun control.

I don’t see any of us being able to use anything other than hunting weapons if he had his way. Hes against assault weapons, against concealed carry, and is consistently for the “sportsmen”. I could see it being worse than the Clinton’s assault weapons ban.

[http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack\_Obama\_Gun\_Control.htm](http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm)

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> [@FS: 1993 Ranger V6 4x4 $1200](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1993-ranger-v6-4x4-1200/37703/17):
>
> LOL’Bama SUCKS!!!
> 
> Obama’s unfounded promises… “I’m going to make sure there are 1 million cars that get 150mpg by 2015 (ok….??? How? At what cost??? Who’s burden of cost???)
> 
> I don’t like the idea of being ‘fiscally responsible” taking away from one and giving to the other… I would rather see tax cuts in the middle and lower classes while maintaining the tax cuts of the ‘wealthy’… Although, under obama i would be considered wealthy, so that’s a plus i guess… well right before i’m raped at tax time to give handouts to degenerates.
> 
> I am against a National Health Insurance “Exchange”… I feel that if you are going to free market your healthcare, then let the market dictate the standards and costs… I don’t need another government body to tell the private sector how to ‘play fair’
> 
> Obama-“Employers that do not offer or make a meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their employees will be required to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of the national plan.” – this scares me because what is considered ‘meaningful’??? Why would it be the governments job to mandate contributions! its like forcing volunteer work…
> 
> Obama -" Mandatory Coverage for Children"??? How about mandatory Parenting classes for shitty parents! again…more social handouts!
> 
> Obama - “America simply cannot afford more of the old approach to our national defense. Instead, it needs a Commander-in-Chief with the right combination of judgment, vision, and leadership for the 21st century.” - how, why, where, when, who, what? Our military history isn’t that bad! It’s still a fully volunteer army with tons of people signing up daily… this is cry wolf syndrome… beyond that, ever see the stats on who the military tends for vote for? and to your point starboy… nothing like saying something without even a slightest beginning of an idea to the solution. 🙂 unfounded!
> 
> why i like mccain, tip of the iceberg and after 15 minutes of reading:
> 
> against Telecommunications ACT
> 
> against unfounded and non-studied funding of possible ‘green’ initiatives (read: subsidiary ethanol studies, that years later proved to be more harmful to the environment and less than desirable re: cost effectiveness – not just “for” it because of the hype.
> 
> voted against raising top marginal tax rate from 35% to 36%
> 
> extended AMT relief for middle-class tax payers, extended cuts in dividend and capital gains.
> 
> led the Internet Tax Freedom Act of 2007
> 
> Proposed National Interoperable Broadband Network for Disaster first responders (obviously needed)
> 
> called senate to join against Gas Tax Holiday Amendment – suspending the 18.4 cent increase between memorial and labor day (ghey)
> 
> Agreed that the “economic stimulus” was an OK idea, but there is a larger issue and cutting corporate taxes is a better movement for the economic system than randomly dumping money into the hands of the consumer.

[http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=722132&postcount=36](http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/showpost.php?p=722132&postcount=36)

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/12 "2008-10-01T08:59:36Z")

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sorry!

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> [@Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-2007-season-discussion/35063/442):
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> well now that you have researched all the flaws of the democratic party what are they on mccains side? not that im disagreeing with what you found… but most people are gonna look at how this country was ran over the past 16 yrs… when there was a democrat in office ( bill clinton ) the only thing people really worried or almost cared about was how he was banging monica. the economy was great, gas was at a $1.05 for premium, and we didnt have any serious issues that required thousands of soliders to be killed. now to recap on when a republican stepped back into office… we had planes flying into buildings and national monuments, gas sored to an all time high of 4 dollars a gallon for octane 87, instead of findiing the person responsible for 911… we decide to go fight the war of terrorism, which is eqivilent to fighting the war against drugs, its a never ending battle. Bush had 2 cut tax stimulus checks " to boost the economy". when the country is at its highest level ever concerning people in poverity they had 2 try to pass a bail out bill just to try to help banks dispurse money to businesses and comsumers trying to buy cars and houses because people are hurting so bad they are now failing to pay there mortgages and banks are going bankrupt. experts are now saying its basically going to be impossible to put the future kids threw college cas of how fucked up the economy is right now. mccain had shown 2 support 80% of this. he believes we should stay in iraq and continue to get people killed, he has said in previous speeches that the bush administration just has a few kinks that needed fixed, and the lower class doesnt seem to be much of a priority to him. so figuritively speaking, if you are a democrat, you would have to be defined legally retarded to think about voting for another republican for office. at this point i think alot of people are just voting for the democratic party, not the candidate .

You are being pretty short-sided on a lot of these claims. The 9/11 attacks came just 3 months after Bush took office, so it’s not like he caused al-Qaeda to attack.

In addition, you need to recognize that Bill Clinton didn’t create the 1990’s economy, and George Bush didn’t cause the current market collapse. There is an entire industry and indeed a large portion of Congress that had plenty to do with getting us where we are.

Also, Obama doesn’t magically mean Iraq goes away, though his agenda is to leave sooner rather than later, and BOTH candidates have said we still need to go to Afghanistan next, so neither candidate is ending our campaign in the Middle East.

As for the “bailout,” you have two houses of Congress that have to pass that legislation and the only thing Bush can do is veto or sign it. There are some sophisticated economic principles in play and it’s not as simple as “gas used to be cheap and now it’s expensive, republicans ruin everything!”

For the record, I have never supported George Bush nor do I support John McCain’s bid for the presidency.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/14 "2008-10-01T10:03:29Z")

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> when there was a democrat in office ( bill clinton ) the only thing people really worried or almost cared about was how he was banging monica.

For real? That’s the only thing people really worried about?

I guess the US solidiers in Mogadishu in '93 weren’t worried about dying or anything…that the family at Ruby Ridge wasn’t worried about federal agents murdering them…gun owners weren’t worried about the Assault Weapons Ban or the Brady Bill…no one was interested in White Water…nothing was going on in Bosnia-Herzogovnia…no one really cared about NAFTA…

Get the picture yet?

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**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/15 "2008-10-01T10:09:00Z")

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> [@Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-2007-season-discussion/35063/442):
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> well now that you have researched all the flaws of the democratic party what are they on mccains side? not that im disagreeing with what you found… but most people are gonna look at how this country was ran over the past 16 yrs… when there was a democrat in office ( bill clinton ) the only thing people really worried or almost cared about was how he was banging monica. the economy was great, gas was at a $1.05 for premium, and we didnt have any serious issues that required thousands of soliders to be killed. now to recap on when a republican stepped back into office… we had planes flying into buildings and national monuments, gas sored to an all time high of 4 dollars a gallon for octane 87, instead of findiing the person responsible for 911… we decide to go fight the war of terrorism, which is eqivilent to fighting the war against drugs, its a never ending battle. Bush had 2 cut tax stimulus checks " to boost the economy". when the country is at its highest level ever concerning people in poverity they had 2 try to pass a bail out bill just to try to help banks dispurse money to businesses and comsumers trying to buy cars and houses because people are hurting so bad they are now failing to pay there mortgages and banks are going bankrupt. experts are now saying its basically going to be impossible to put the future kids threw college cas of how fucked up the economy is right now. mccain had shown 2 support 80% of this. he believes we should stay in iraq and continue to get people killed, he has said in previous speeches that the bush administration just has a few kinks that needed fixed, and the lower class doesnt seem to be much of a priority to him. so figuritively speaking, if you are a democrat, you would have to be defined legally retarded to think about voting for another republican for office. at this point i think alot of people are just voting for the democratic party, not the candidate .

your affiliation does not surprise me reading this idiotic garbage.

you really think that getting someone into office is a light switch of activity? do you know you are an idiot? you really think that ‘clintons’ economy was a result of him getting elected? how about the subsequent years?

lol… Bush was in office for what 4 months when 9/11 happened? obviously a direct cause and effect of him being elected. :ugh:

gas was cheap … now isn’t… wow!!! can that statement be any dumber and baseless? i can’t even continue to comment… this is so dumb 🤣

maybe it’s you that should go ‘threw’ college…

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/16 "2008-10-01T10:21:02Z")

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🤣 NAFTA=not assembled for the americans  
i hated that bill when it first passed. and still do

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/17 "2008-10-01T10:30:09Z")

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**Author:** ![jayare05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jayare05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jayare05)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/18 "2008-10-01T10:34:50Z")

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my fault… i should of never replied 2 this thread… it is going to be nothin but a debate for weeks and weeks… i guess it was dumb to reply and not touch every single aspect of are countries past so i just went ahead and deleted that reply. guess i should go to a 3rd college considering i got 2 college degrees. not trying to start no internet battle here… i did forget what kind of people float around on pittspeed and why i spend more time on honda tech then this site… to many internet tough guys floating around here that dont no how to reply with a mature response. i now offically throw in the white flag!

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/19 "2008-10-01T10:45:32Z")

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You posted the following very silly comment:

> when there was a democrat in office ( bill clinton ) the only thing people really worried or almost cared about was how he was banging monica.

In response, I pointed out only a few of the many, many major issues the country faced during Clinton’s administration- some of which were the direct result of his administration’s actions.

If you consider that “immature”, well, I really don’t know what to say.

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**Author:** ![PoisonousBeef](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poisonousbeef/32/6007_2.png) [@PoisonousBeef](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PoisonousBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/barak-hussein-obama-truths/199684/20 "2008-10-01T10:47:58Z")

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> [@slow84ta\>"fastest import in myrtle beach"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/slow84ta-fastest-import-in-myrtle-beach/37829/33):
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> my fault… i should of never replied 2 this thread… it is going to be nothin but a debate for weeks and weeks… i guess it was dumb to reply and not touch every single aspect of are countries past. guess i should go to a 3rd college considering i got 2 college degrees. not trying to start no internet battle here… i did tend to forget what kind of people float around on pittspeed. the chances of getting a mature reponse are around the 3 out of 10 mark.

what the fuck do your college degrees have to do with anything? if you didn’t make idiotic comments then you wouldn’t have to defend your ostensibly vast education. nobody gives a shit about your degrees. cut your own throat.

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