# Basil... Motorsports? **URL:** \ **Category:** Vendor Marketplace\ **Created:** [October 20, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670 "2012-10-20T11:31:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/1 "2012-10-20T11:31:03Z")
:snky: DB ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/2 "2012-10-20T11:37:37Z")
oh… ok… ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/3 "2012-10-20T12:34:56Z")
o i c ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/4 "2012-10-20T12:35:55Z")
What do you guys think? Dirtbikes, ATV’s, motorcycles, trailers, watercraft… the whole shot. ---------- Post added at 03:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:35 PM ---------- > [@travisn](#): > > oh… ok… lol by the way ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/5 "2012-10-20T12:36:25Z")
That worked out really well for Ray Laks Motorsports Not to mention the economy is still shitty and there are a number of other well established companies in this area. If you guys can pull it off :tup: but seems :tif: ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/6 "2012-10-20T12:46:11Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > That worked out really well for Ray Laks Motorsports > > Not to mention the economy is still shitty and there are a number of other well established companies in this area. > > If you guys can pull it off :tup: but seems :tif: I was thinking the same exact thing… ---
**Author:** ![oneslowdsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8491ac/32.png) [@oneslowdsm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowdsm)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/7 "2012-10-20T12:47:39Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > That worked out really well for Ray Laks Motorsports > > Not to mention the economy is still shitty and there are a number of other well established companies in this area. > > If you guys can pull it off :tup: but seems :tif: My dad bought his motorcycle from Ray Laks… a week later they closed shop. He was not a happy man. I also have to agree with you, there are 3-4 very well established companies around and I dont see this going well. Best of luck though! ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/8 "2012-10-20T13:43:18Z")
As long as your business plan is to sell to and finance 18 year old punks with a “big” down payment who you know are going to stop making payments then repo the item and repeat process to the next stupid 18 year old. That seems to be the way motorsports stores work. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/9 "2012-10-20T14:32:29Z")
:bigtup: to competition! ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/10 "2012-10-20T14:53:01Z")
Can it be used in an already existing space to reduce overhead? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/11 "2012-10-20T15:18:04Z")
> [@oneslowdsm](#): > > I also have to agree with you, there are 3-4 very well established companies There is one decent powersport dealer in all of WNY. The rest of them are jokes in size, inventory and price. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/12 "2012-10-20T15:47:03Z")
Pioneer is pretty large. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/13 "2012-10-20T15:59:05Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Pioneer is pretty large. And on the brink. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/14 "2012-10-20T16:20:03Z")
Too many loans to 18 year olds with bad/no credit? They seem to do decent business, no? ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/15 "2012-10-20T17:49:44Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Can it be used in an already existing space to reduce overhead? Bingo. Not to mention I don’t have to buy anything I don’t want for a price I don’t want which means I sell it for a low price. No franchises involved, no additional space, no additional people… do the math. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/16 "2012-10-20T18:48:03Z")
No additional people? Don’t all the other shops service all the things they sell? Have parts in stock? Sure you guys can make it work. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/17 "2012-10-20T18:56:10Z")
I think it would work if you used a single existing dealer as an add on. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/18 "2012-10-20T19:41:51Z")
IMO, Hebelers or bust. Bob Weaver is overpriced and annoying. Freewheeling was cool, but had dumb employees. Ray Laks was like walking into a used car lot and getting bugged immediately about new crap. Pioneer is too far. ---
**Author:** ![Birdman64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c37758/32.png) [@Birdman64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman64)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/19 "2012-10-21T05:56:14Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > And on the brink. Looks like they’re on the brink… With the huge renovation to the outside and all… And Hebelers is alright I’ve dealt with then for the better part of the last 10 years and know the family personally and still choose to buy online or go somewhere else than go there. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670/20 "2012-10-21T06:15:14Z")
I started buying from Pioneer when I bought my first sled. Still remember how Terry and his wife went WAY above and beyond with customer service. Colley’s in Hamburg closing up the sled portion of their business. Appolson’s is a tea bag. Hamburg Honda opened up Arctic Cat snowmobiles with their motorcycles sales. Seems like things are shaking up. Would not want to own a business based heavily on the weather. Not after last season. Hope that weather pattern was just a hiccup. If you think you can make it work, who am I to stop you? Call me me you need interior renovation / conversion. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/basil-motorsports/226670.md?page=2)