# BB Storm **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040 "2008-09-16T16:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![9c1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1/32/7392_2.png) [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/281 "2008-12-05T11:10:14Z")
> [@dmoffitt](#): > > [The Votes Are In: BlackBerry Storm Sucks | WIRED](http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/12/the-votes-are-i.html) Doesn’t say which OS they were using. If they were using the shipping OS, 4.7.0.6x, then yes, it does suck. Quite a bit in fact. Upgrade the phone to 4.7.0.75 (which should have shipped on the phone IMHO) and you have a 100% better experience. I’m loving mine. ---
**Author:** ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/282 "2008-12-06T07:41:39Z")
Just went to .75 last night and I agree…tons better. I’ve had it for 2 weeks now and I still love this. I’m honestly not sure why it’s getting shit from people. ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/283 "2008-12-07T06:44:28Z")
Posting from mine right now. I’m diggin it thus far. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/284 "2008-12-07T21:05:37Z")
> [@Terry](#): > > Just went to .75 last night and I agree…tons better. I’ve had it for 2 weeks now and I still love this. I’m honestly not sure why it’s getting shit from people. A guy I was sitting next to at the poker room tonight has one and he said its OK but he is less than impressed from all the hype it got. ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/285 "2008-12-08T05:50:43Z")
After using it all weekend i have come to this conclusion. The phone is not a BB in the sense that it is a good device to manage emails and work related stuff and thats what makes a BB\> iphone in the business world. The lack of keyboard makes it that way in my opionion. While i feel the keyboard is many times better than the iphones it is just impractical to hae a touch screen because of the lack of ridges between the keys. A bb storm with a slide out keyboard would be a fantastic phone if they could keep the phone at the same size. I am anxous to see more support for the storm in the BB apps in the future as well as the BB app store that they have been building up. I guess its a good attempt of BB to make a touch phone and it has a lot of potential but im sure rim will keep improving it. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/286 "2008-12-08T06:14:21Z")
Yea they make it seem like touch screen is the best thing nowadays! I would be happy with a slide out key board and keep the nice big screen. Maybe the phone would be able to use the CPU better without the touch. ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/287 "2008-12-08T09:28:10Z")
> [@9c1](#): > > So more testing this morning. I think I’ve found it. I get a message in Outlook. Second or so later, it hits the BlackBerry. If I PERMANENTLY delete the message in Outlook (shift key + delete key, removing it completely from the Mailbox), the message is removed from the BlackBerry in about a minute or so. If I just delete the message (delete key, moving the message to the Deleted Items folder), then the message stays on the BlackBerry. It’s not until I empty the Deleted Items folder that the message is removed from the BlackBerry. Odd the way that works… > > At least I know why it does it now. I’m becoming a self taught BES expert! 🙂 Ahh, sorry I didn’t see this sooner. Reconciliation of deleted items is very low on the totem pole in terms of what the BES/Exchange server talk to each other about, it usually take a while to do. Other things I need to know : 1. How many exchange servers do you have? 2. If multiple users, are they all on the same exchange server? 3. How many mailbox agents do you have? 4. How fast is the box? 5. All your service packs updated on Exch? 6. What version of exchange? ---
**Author:** ![9c1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1/32/7392_2.png) [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/288 "2008-12-09T18:39:35Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > Ahh, sorry I didn’t see this sooner. > > Reconciliation of deleted items is very low on the totem pole in terms of what the BES/Exchange server talk to each other about, it usually take a while to do. > > Other things I need to know : > > 1. How many exchange servers do you have? > 2. If multiple users, are they all on the same exchange server? > 3. How many mailbox agents do you have? > 4. How fast is the box? > 5. All your service packs updated on Exch? > 6. What version of exchange? 1.) Single Exchange server 2.) Everyone is on the single Exchange server 3.) Mailbox agents? You mean licenses for BES? Or mailboxes on Exchange? 4.) The BES server is a brand new HP ProLiant DL360 G5. Not sure on specs off the top of my head, but it’s potent. Exchange is a DL380 G4. 5.) All service packs are up to date. 6.) Exchange 2003 SP2 ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/289 "2008-12-17T11:04:24Z")
Anyone having pretty shitty battery life with this? I text/AIM a lot through the day and do some intermittant web browsing and my battery gets CHEWED through. ---
**Author:** ![9c1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1/32/7392_2.png) [@9c1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/290 "2008-12-17T11:07:16Z")
^^ what OS are you using? .65 was worse on battery life than .75 is. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/291 "2008-12-17T11:07:59Z")
4.7.0.75 ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/292 "2008-12-17T11:12:40Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#): > > Anyone having pretty shitty battery life with this? I text/AIM a lot through the day and do some intermittant web browsing and my battery gets CHEWED through. Welcome to the world of modern smartphones. iPhone is the same way. The chips, screen, high speed data network and backlight on top of email syncing (PUSH mail is a killer) destroy it. You should probably get 8-10 hours before it needs to be charged again? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/293 "2008-12-17T11:13:09Z")
so is this phone a hige flop? ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/294 "2008-12-17T11:17:17Z")
nah i like it a lot… with the current OS it is still pretty quick. the battery is PROBABLY going to be shitty. It is still good for a full day which is all that is required for a smartphone, you won’t get better than that. However once it degrades a bit I have a feeling it’s going to be insufficient. I am still pissed that i can’t use BES/BPS without getting a corporate plan. I should just fork over the nut for it but I am paying verizon like… $350/$400 a month already. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/295 "2008-12-17T11:19:05Z")
werd, I would have gotten the storm if I could have done it with my workplace for 30/month. did it exceed your expectations? Be honest ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/296 "2008-12-17T11:23:30Z")
I definitely like the phone. 8-10hrs sounds about right for the battery with my usage. Just going to get a charger for work and one for home…no big deal I guess. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/297 "2008-12-17T11:26:52Z")
Also, anyone mess around with the touchscreen options? I feel like I could benefit from changing them, but I don’t really know what the effects will be. ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/298 "2008-12-17T12:07:37Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > werd, I would have gotten the storm if I could have done it with my workplace for 30/month. > > did it exceed your expectations? Be honest I like it a lot, having said that it is really not very blackberryish if you are familiar with a typica blackberry device. Its a great phone and has a ton of potential when more apps are made with it in mind. Right now the applications store is very limited but come march that is supposed to change. As ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/299 "2008-12-17T12:07:53Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > werd, I would have gotten the storm if I could have done it with my workplace for 30/month. > > did it exceed your expectations? Be honest I like it a lot, having said that it is really not very blackberryish if you are familiar with a typica blackberry device. Its a great phone and has a ton of potential when more apps are made with it in mind. Right now the applications store is very limited but come march that is supposed to change. As of right now i am very satisfied with the phone. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040/300 "2008-12-17T12:13:59Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > werd, I would have gotten the storm if I could have done it with my workplace for 30/month. > > did it exceed your expectations? Be honest did it exceed? no, but it met them… i had read just about every review out there so i knew exactly what i was getting 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bb-storm/55040.md?page=16)