# Be cautious driving today, guys

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 30, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428 "2009-12-30T05:39:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428/41 "2009-12-30T20:34:47Z")

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> [@Rare NYSPEED cars, for real.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rare-nyspeed-cars-for-real/27584/124):
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> +rep
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> to Ray.

This! :lol

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428/42 "2009-12-30T22:49:01Z")

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Ray didn’t give me a ticket you rough rats.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428/43 "2009-12-30T23:47:01Z")

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> [@Here We Go Again...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/6):
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> i never said a word about quotas as i know they arent a quota

Erm…

[quote=offroadzj;519232… they really do have **quotas** they should hit. [/quote]

> [@FS: 87 GMC pickup](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-87-gmc-pickup/27855/2):
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> **100% correct** thank u…its not like theyre going to lose their job when **they dont meet the quota** ,

You beg to differ with yourself.

> [@Here We Go Again...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/here-we-go-again/27862/6):
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> And you cant pull over the first 5/10/15 cars you see and ticket them if they are doing nothing wrong can you? Dont think so, so no that isnt what cops do. Im glad you have run-ins with police officers but that doesnt make you a lawyer. NOR am i, but i AM studying criminal justice and i do have (without exaggeration) 3 federal, 2 state, and 3 local law enforcement officials in my immediate family, more in the rest of my family.

Just about everybody on the road is breaking the law and can be ticketed at any point in time. When was the last time you went an entire day following the speed limit to a T? And before you go with the 10mph comment, I’ve been ticketed for 10mph over, 11mph over, and some members here have been indeed ticketed for less than that, such as Cossey for 3mph over IIRC.

> [@FOUND MY CAPRICE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/found-my-caprice/27800/7):
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> Quoted for fuckup :lmao
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> Just because in the narrow scope that you drove and didnt see someone pulled over doesnt mean there arent people being pulled. While there is no quota, there is a reasonable number of stops that an officer is expected to make, and that will be a big factor when promotion time comes around. Think if cop A makes 3 stops in a month, and cop B makes 25, who would you be more likely to promote? The guy sitting in his car not making his time worthwhile, or the guy out busting his ass more that is putting forth effort?
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> No they dont put out extra shifts, but overtime is readily available for most whenever wanted. There isnt a need for extra officers, there is a need for the individual officers to do more on their own shift. And naturally people procrastinate, and put shit off till the last minute, and alot of officers are no different. They make up more of their stops towards the end of the month.
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> Not rocket science :thumbup

Nobody is arguing overtime or holidays increase, that’s a given, overtime is available at other times of the month too not just the end so that point is null.

If there is a cop A who makes only 3 stops a month while cop B makes 30 and they are both “allowed” then obviously that goal setting isn’t working out.

As far as procrastinating comment, I’m sure you know plenty of people that like to get everything out of the way ASAP and get it done whenever they have the task to be free later, so cop A would just be heavy at the beginning of each month and slack of later.

The end of the month point makes no sense and has no basis for validity. (holidays excluding).

I know cops that only stop people for equipment malfunctions such as your tail lights or headlights and that usually leads to other things (unless the scanner goes off). I also know cops that just like to pull people over and give tickets all the time. I know a female Colonie cops that rarely gives tickets for anything. NONE of those cops will change their ways just because the month is nearing the end, they stick to their old ways day in and day out, whether it be stopping everybody or stopping nearly nobody.

To add to that, a cop that gives out only 5 tickets for 28 days of the month and then 25 tickets in the last 3 days won’t look good for the chief either because he slacked off for the other 28 days, any kind of goal setting would require daily ticket or two activity, not a monthly basis.

Quick link

> “Troopers of the Washington State Patrol do not have a quota or minimum number of traffic stops they are required to make in any given time,” department spokesman Freddy Williams said. The patrol expects a full day’s work for a full day’s pay from each and every one of its employees.  
> “Supervisors look at the daily work sheet each, and every trooper is required to complete, to see how many physical assists or violator contacts were made. But there is no mandate or regulation requiring a specific minimum number of contacts per shift.”  
> Seattle police echoed Williams’ statements on traffic tickets: “We have no quotas,” department spokesman Jeff Kappel said.

[http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/159284.asp](http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/159284.asp)

So basically, yes there are goals for cops to give tickets, that however has no connection to the day on the calendar. Their job is to enforce the law and give tickets, DAILY. When the Chief tells you to write more tickets cause you don’t have enough, that doesn’t mean write 100 in a day and do nothing for the rest of the month.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428/44 "2009-12-30T23:47:49Z")

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> [@Say Something About the Poster Above you v.2](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/say-something-about-the-poster-above-you-v-2/27854/88):
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> Ive asked my cousin (sheriff) about quotas and he told me there is a certain amount of tickets they want a traffic cop to write per month. Lately he isnt on traffic duty very often though.
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> He gets plenty of overtime (by choice) and saves the overtime for vacation days. He worked 12 days in October and spent the rest hunting but got paid for the whole month.

Exactly part of the fucking problem in public service jobs

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**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-cautious-driving-today-guys/249428/45 "2009-12-31T12:13:30Z")

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> [@Rare NYSPEED cars, for real.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rare-nyspeed-cars-for-real/27584/126):
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> Ray didn’t give me a ticket you rough rats.

lol, we know hoss.

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