# Before you vote today..... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 4, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954 "2008-11-04T04:30:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/1 "2008-11-04T04:30:04Z")
**Please watch this video.** Apparently Barack Obama was not a natural born citizen of this country and he has been appealing motions in court to keep from having to show his official birth certificate. The US constitution provides that in order to run for president you have to have be a natural born citizen…check this out ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/2 "2008-11-04T04:33:34Z")
This has been discussed and shot down in several courts already, the state of hawaii showed [factchecker.org](http://factchecker.org) the hard copy of barack obamas birth certificate and they actually held it. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/3 "2008-11-04T04:38:26Z")
Barack Obama sat on the council of [factchecker.org](http://factchecker.org) for many years. Conflict of interest??? ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/4 "2008-11-04T05:07:26Z")
SRSLY I think the electoral college checked on his birth records during his nomination process. You cannot get a nomination to the office of president without being a u.s. citizen. This is purely republican propaganda…I can’t believe people still fall for this shit. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/5 "2008-11-04T05:15:01Z")
And he is a US citizen. That’s correct. But the argument is whether or not he was a natural born citizen. Which again the constitution provides you must be in order to become president. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/6 "2008-11-04T05:25:56Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > **Please watch this video.** Apparently Barack Obama was not a natural born citizen of this country and he has been appealing motions in court to keep from having to show his official birth certificate. The US constitution provides that in order to run for president you have to have be a natural born citizen…check this out > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6\_k3NtXZs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs) Do a bit of research before you make bullshit claims. The GOP has thrown out just about every single hail mary possible. If this was even a possibility, it would have been used. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/7 "2008-11-04T05:33:36Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > **Do a bit of research before you make bullshit claims.** The GOP has thrown out just about every single hail mary possible. If this was even a possibility, it would have been used. Go ahead and eat your own bullet then. Why don’t you do some research in order to be able to tell me that it is a bullshit claim? Other than [factfinder.org](http://factfinder.org), find another documented case of him having a legal birth certificate from the US? You find something that is 100% bulletproof and ill eat it and shut up. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/8 "2008-11-04T05:43:15Z")
Oh heres more for you: ![http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n101/adam1721/forgeryproof.jpg](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n101/adam1721/forgeryproof.jpg) This is a piece from the one and only copy of his alleged birth certificate. (From [Factfinder.org](http://Factfinder.org)). Notice the fathers applied race. African. Well on every single birth certificate in the 50 US states during the time of his birth, the race of an african male was displayed as NEGROE. Which leaves an opening in the argument, that it is possibly forged. Using todays more “politically correct” terminology… ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/9 "2008-11-04T05:43:48Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Go ahead and eat your own bullet then. Why don’t you do some research in order to be able to tell me that it is a bullshit claim? Other than [factfinder.org](http://factfinder.org), find another documented case of him having a legal birth certificate from the US? You find something that is 100% bulletproof and ill eat it and shut up. every article on the internet is to be takin seriously and to heart because they are ALL true! ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/10 "2008-11-04T05:44:31Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Go ahead and eat your own bullet then. Why don’t you do some research in order to be able to tell me that it is a bullshit claim? Other than [factfinder.org](http://factfinder.org), find another documented case of him having a legal birth certificate from the US? You find something that is 100% bulletproof and ill eat it and shut up. Write a letter to the GOP campaign and tell them you found the smoking gun. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/11 "2008-11-04T05:44:50Z")
> [@deadbeatrec](#): > > every article on the internet is to be takin seriously and to heart because they are ALL true! Pants found it on Wiki so it’s 100% true. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/12 "2008-11-04T05:53:31Z")
seriously… if this had any chance of being true then you know the GOP would have spent millions to bury Obama… That didn’t happen, so I doubt it’s accurate. But I guess you figured it out. :nuts ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/13 "2008-11-04T05:57:06Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > seriously… if this had any chance of being true then you know the GOP would have spent millions to bury Obama… That didn’t happen, so I doubt it’s accurate. But I guess you figured it out. :nuts Exactly. Also, McCain was born in Panama. Yes, a military base. Do I care? No. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/14 "2008-11-04T06:14:41Z")
found this hilarious… taken from a post over on rspeed by redroof/captain moai Barack Obama: - Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. -Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude Joseph Biden: - University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. - Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. John McCain: -United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899. Sarah Palin: -Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester -North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study - University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska - Susitna College - 1 semester - University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/15 "2008-11-04T06:19:40Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > found this hilarious… taken from a post over on rspeed by redroof/captain moai > > Barack Obama: > > - Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in > International Relations. > -Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude > > Joseph Biden: > > - University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political > Science. > - Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) > > vs. > > John McCain: > -United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899. > > Sarah Palin: > -Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester > -North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study > > - University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska > - Susitna College - 1 semester > - University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism. Magna Cum Laude at Harvard vs 894 out of 899 at US Naval Academy. :lol: I’d love to see Palin’s transcript. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/16 "2008-11-04T06:26:45Z")
George Washington was born in England… :ponder ---
**Author:** ![smithsteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smithsteg/32/6379_2.png) [@smithsteg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smithsteg)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/17 "2008-11-04T06:29:16Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Exactly. Also, McCain was born in Panama. Yes, a military base. Do I care? No. just to clear it up, any military base any where in the world is considered US soil so he was born in the US. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/18 "2008-11-04T06:39:10Z")
> [@Johawk](#): > > George Washington was born in England… :ponder ehhhhh…nope Born February 22, 1732(1732-02-22) Westmoreland County, Colony of Virginia, British America Died December 14, 1799 (aged 67) Mount Vernon, Virginia, United States ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/19 "2008-11-04T06:41:04Z")
> [@smithsteg](#): > > just to clear it up, any military base any where in the world is considered US soil so he was born in the US. I thought we all knew that. But, still, he wasn’t born in the 48/50 states and some people have a problem with that. I do not. ---
**Author:** ![h82goslw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/41988e/32.png) [@h82goslw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h82goslw)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954/20 "2008-11-04T06:42:23Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > Oh heres more for you: > > This is a piece from the one and only copy of his alleged birth certificate. (From [Factfinder.org](http://Factfinder.org)). > > Notice the fathers applied race. African. Well on every single birth certificate in the 50 US states during the time of his birth, the race of an african male was displayed as NEGROE. Which leaves an opening in the argument, that it is possibly forged. Using todays more “politically correct” terminology… I don’t normally get involved in these discussions, but this really is funny. Regarding the listing of the father, if he was an “African AMERICAN” then the birth cert. would list him as a negro. Obama’s father was a real AFRICAN, meaning that was his country of origin, hence the reason for listing him as African. Now everyone can go back to all the pandering and posturing on who everyone should vote for. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/before-you-vote-today/239954.md?page=2)