# Belleville Woman Found Dead - Anyone Guess Who's To Blame?

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [February 8, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359 "2010-02-08T10:52:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/21 "2010-02-08T11:49:48Z")

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> [@agent240sx"](#):
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> It’s a joke in Canada… a “life” sentence is only 25 years.
> 
> Then you get probation lol… life sentence my ass.

I’m at a loss for words right now dude. Really I am.

This shit is NOT right.

What the fuck can any one do though? Fighting cost thousands of dollars. And who can afford that shit?  
Making a living even without bullshit fines and charges coming in to play is hard enough.

Ughh:/:

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**Author:** ![5cott](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/5cott/32/5737_2.png) [@5cott](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/5cott)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/22 "2010-02-08T11:50:49Z")

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> [@should i buy this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-buy-this/25974/21):
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> Yes, I know. This has nothing to do with Police. Just me being a moron. Letting my hatred get the best of me.
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> Anyways
> 
> Him not being punished…is true.  
> Minor punishments. Life goes on for him.  
> Yet, if this way me or you (homicidal maniac) we would spend life behind bars.  
> Now, where is the equality in that?
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> I remember when we went to court for an arson that nearly destroyed our shop. The ass got 15 months probation.  
> Year later insurance billed him $150,000. He claimed bankruptcy and got away **_scott_** free.  
> Yes, his life will be hard. Yet, he did not in any way get what he deserved.
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> I will never forget what the judge said.
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> Exact words: “Here in Canada. The Justice system is NOT eye for an eye”

My name is Scott!

Anyways, Thats how it is, works for some and against others.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/23 "2010-02-08T11:52:29Z")

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> [@WTH: Welder](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wth-welder/25577/6):
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> My name is Scott!
> 
> Anyways, Thats how it is, works for some and against others.

I have this weird feeling. That you have not ever had a hard time with our "Un"justice system…Scott! lol

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/24 "2010-02-08T11:53:26Z")

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> [@agent240sx"](#):
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> It’s a joke in Canada… a “life” sentence is only 25 years.
> 
> Then you get probation lol… life sentence my ass.

Isn’t murder only 2 or 3 years in the states?

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**Author:** ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/25 "2010-02-08T11:58:31Z")

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Yes I learned that the hard way. I was naive. I thought that if I was honest and explained things to an officer, he in turn would be honest, and everything would work out professionally. I was wrong, sorely wrong. I never mouthed off or smarted off, I never treated the officers with disrespect. I was treated like a criminal. They tried every avenue to find some sort of potential criminal charge. When the drugs and weapons didn’t work, they tried labelling me as a car thief because I had a multiple-bit screw driver in the car. After that failed, then they hit me with the no insurance.

I learned the hard way to be prepared for the worse from cops. Speak as few words as possible to them, document the encounter as thoroughly as possible, and expect them to never have your interest in mind. If you are pulled over, he’s gonna dig for anything that will justify his actions in the books.

I was a fool for expecting more honesty from them.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/26 "2010-02-08T12:06:04Z")

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> [@FS: Midway Arcade Game](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-midway-arcade-game/25884/24):
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> Yes I learned that the hard way. I was naive. I thought that if I was honest and explained things to an officer, he in turn would be honest, and everything would work out professionally. I was wrong, sorely wrong. I never mouthed off or smarted off, I never treated the officers with disrespect. I was treated like a criminal. They tried every avenue to find some sort of potential criminal charge. When the drugs and weapons didn’t work, they tried labelling me as a far their because I had a multiple-bit screw driver in the car. After that failed, then they hit me with the no insurance.
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> I learned the hard way to be prepared for the worse from cops. Speak as few words as possible to them, document the encounter as thoroughly as possible, and expect them to never have your interest in mind. If you are pulled over, he’s gonna dig for anything that will justify his actions in the books.
> 
> I was a fool for expecting more honesty from them.

Oh I hear that.

I always play the respect game in the beginning. Once the attitude/power trip surfaces. I play ball.  
Got me out of Street racing and impound fee’s etc etc. Then, in the end The cops never showed in court for the charge of careless driving.

If you have ANYTHING in your car that can be considered a weapon in any way. Tell them as soon as they ask. This way it is not concealed yadda yadda. Keep the minimal amount of stuff in your car. They will always tear your shit up.  
I surrendered a 5" knife when I was charged with Dangerous driving. I told them I was doing wiring on my ECM earlier in the day and left the knife in my car. (ECM was still layin on floor)  
They grabbed it. Played the ZOMFG!!! illllligealalalaasssss game. I told them, take it. Never got charged for it.

You gotta analyze the situation over and over and over as it unfolds. Keep your mouth shut unless you have something legitimate to say.

It gets to a point sometimes…that I say bad fuckin shit. Even though its justified. lol

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**Author:** ![agent240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@agent240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/agent240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/27 "2010-02-08T12:07:06Z")

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> [@87s15lt1"](#):
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> Isn’t murder only 2 or 3 years in the states?

It’s different in each state, some states have the death penalty some don’t. In Canada we basically follow the same sentencing rule throughout all the provinces.

As frustrating as it is cops have way too much power and there is nothing we can do about it. They can inconvience our life at will and fighting it inconviences us even more. I also have an upcoming court date… but I have the know how and experience to fight it without problems. He almost got a conviction out of me in a very shady manner and I reversed it.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/28 "2010-02-08T12:09:29Z")

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> [@FS: 2006 Scion TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2006-scion-tc/25112/9):
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> It’s different in each state, some states have the death penalty some don’t. In Canada we basically follow the same sentencing rule throughout all the provinces.
> 
> As frustrating as it is cops have way too much power and there is nothing we can do about it. They can inconvience our life at will and fighting it inconviences us even more. I also have an upcoming court date… but I have the know how and experience to fight it without problems. He almost got a conviction out of me in a very shady manner and I reversed it.

Lucky you. I think? lol

I have no patience. Especially for bullshit that I should not have to put time in to in the first place. If I am guilty of something. I plead guilty. End of story.

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**Author:** ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/29 "2010-02-08T12:17:48Z")

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But now you (we) must all eitheir spend money and/or lose money due to lost wages. It almost feels as if you are guilty until proven innocent. I loved my summons paper.

-If you do not show up you may be convicted (that’s a will)  
-you may have a warrant issued for your arrest  
-you may have an adjournment (that is a no)

In Peel, the court houses are packed. In the Mississauga court the cops are in groups chilling and shooting the shit. Outside are 10-15 cops chilling, getting paid for nothing but chilling. They love it here. I have never seen so many cops show up to court in my life, it was an eye opener. In Toronto the cops are there in far fewer numbers, same with York. Peel? I nearly shit my pants, it’s unreal. You’d swear you walked into a police station.

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**Author:** ![Slide\_Junkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@Slide\_Junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slide_Junkie)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/30 "2010-02-08T12:40:21Z")

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glad you guys feel for this… This is local for me and hits home… I have met her before, at the bar I used to work at… really nice girl.

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**Author:** ![5cott](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/5cott/32/5737_2.png) [@5cott](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/5cott)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/31 "2010-02-08T12:43:18Z")

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> [@should i buy this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-i-buy-this/25974/23):
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> I have this weird feeling. That you have not ever had a hard time with our "Un"justice system…Scott! lol

I get away with everything, all I’m saying. I have a lot of family who work in law fields.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/32 "2010-02-08T12:50:58Z")

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> [@Slide\_Junkie"](#):
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> glad you guys feel for this… This is local for me and hits home… I have met her before, at the bar I used to work at… really nice girl.

Chris. I feel it dude. I used to live not far from Trenton. Warkwarth. It’s all a tight nit community up there.

I never met her how ever.

Words…don’t seem to have much meaning with this subject. I dunno ☹

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**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/33 "2010-02-08T12:51:37Z")

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I am real pissed about this… how he want to defend our conutry, but he is killing the people that live in it.

RIP to the deceased, and prayers for the families

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**Author:** ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/34 "2010-02-08T13:11:54Z")

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It’s a good living if you are willing to sacrifice some of your freedoms for it, and a normal life. 10,00" sign on bonus for regular joes, 20,000 for in demand trades and I think 30K for in demand degree’s or something. It comes at a price, but if you are willing to pay that price it is yours.

I thought about it too, since I would have a good paying career. It’s the sacrifices though. Being the clean cut, clean shaven type, yes sir, military hell dog. My heart isn’t in it, but I am not getting any younger eitheir. It’s the devil man. Good sign on bonus, paid food and accomodation, paid for education, and an allowance on top of that! All you have to do is sell your soul and it is all yours.

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**Author:** ![Tacoboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@Tacoboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tacoboy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/35 "2010-02-08T13:13:02Z")

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To the people who wish to have the American justice system “kill or be killed”, feel free to move. Noone is stopping you.

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**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/36 "2010-02-08T13:42:52Z")

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This kinda thing has happened, happens, and will happen forever, and not only in Canada. It’s how the world works.

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**Author:** ![Keez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/keez/32/5570_2.png) [@Keez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Keez)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/37 "2010-02-08T17:48:22Z")

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There was way to many long responses…sorry if i missed vital shit.

That dude should be shot yah?

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/38 "2010-02-08T22:53:45Z")

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Send him to the chair, oh wait, we’re in canada. Throw him in prison and see how long he lasts there, probably not more than a week.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/39 "2010-02-09T06:18:33Z")

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> [@need info for 2001 sunfire radio wiring](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-info-for-2001-sunfire-radio-wiring/25970/2):
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> There was way to many long responses…sorry if i missed vital shit.
> 
> That dude should be shot yah?

lol!!!

🙂

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**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/belleville-woman-found-dead-anyone-guess-whos-to-blame/131359/40 "2010-02-09T06:39:25Z")

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We have a secret base near Dubai called Camp Mirage? That’s baller shit!

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