# Bi-Xenon HIDs **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 9, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946 "2009-02-09T05:46:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/1 "2009-02-09T05:46:01Z")
I’m going to upgrade the low beam projectors in my Silvia triple projectors and best way is to convert to HID and install the TSX Xenon projectors. But I would also like to upgrade my High Beams. I have searched on some forums and haven’t found any solid evidence on the difference between Xenon and Bi-Xenon. Are Bi-Xenon’s referring to the projector housing with the solenoid actuated shield for high/low beams? Or is the main difference the actual bulb? The TSX projectors are Xenon (as far as I know), they are almost bolt-in for my Siliva. I can’t find any TSX projectors that are Bi-Xenon (have the high/low sheild). But the Acura TL has the Bi-Xenon with the high/low sheild. I’m still researching on wether or not the TL projector housings will fit easily into the Silvia housing. Does anybody have any input on Xenon vs. Bi-Xenon? Or any other recomendations on upgrading my high beams? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/2 "2009-02-09T05:48:04Z")
Bixenon is term used for projector with solenoid low beam sheild. Somewhere I have the dimension of Bi-xenon bosch projectors, I’ll look for it. Used to do conversion for people all the time. Not so much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/3 "2009-02-09T05:51:32Z")
Edit, also there are two type of solenoids on these unit. Those with integrated controllers and those without. simple t work with both, but you must find out what ttype yours are and whether you need a controller [http://integramod.tripod.com/products/bixenon/bixenon.html](http://integramod.tripod.com/products/bixenon/bixenon.html) ths site helps ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/4 "2009-02-09T05:58:07Z")
Thanks for the clarification Boxersix! Would the Bosch projector housings be similar to the ones in an Acura TL? ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/5 "2009-02-09T08:32:52Z")
No. I doubt it. The Acura TL projector is gigantic. One of the biggest on the market. It barely fits in my housing, and my headlights aren’t small. I actually have to cut away a bottom section of my headlight to fit the bi-xenon mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/6 "2009-02-09T09:31:38Z")
Damnit, I want Bi-Xenon though! ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/7 "2009-02-09T10:05:29Z")
Here are some pics of my old headlights to give you an idea. These are Bi-Xenon TL’s with a replica ZKW lense. ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSide.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSide.jpg) ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideBottom.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideBottom.jpg) ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideInstalled.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideInstalled.jpg) ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideInstalled2.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideInstalled2.jpg) ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideRear.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/DriverSideRear.jpg) ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/ProjectorLit.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/ProjectorLit.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/8 "2009-02-09T10:10:31Z")
Yeah they look way to big for my headlight housing :lol Do the TSX’s have high low HID projectors (separate projectors), or are the highs Halogen? ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/9 "2009-02-09T10:12:56Z")
Their highs are halogen. Just stick two TSX projectors in there :). Can you fit that much? Some of the Maxima guys go that route. ![http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252400_2_full.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252400_2_full.jpg) ![http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252400_6_full.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252400_6_full.jpg) ![http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1433/1151118331c2db23906b0wh.jpg](http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1433/1151118331c2db23906b0wh.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/10 "2009-02-09T10:14:44Z")
Yeah I can fit 2 TSX projectors, but would I have to remove the internal sheild so one’s a high beam (no cutoff)? ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/11 "2009-02-09T10:21:45Z")
Eh…that’s a valid point. Unless you just aim (when installing) the 2nd projector up. That way it does the high-beam work WITH a cutoff and wire up the other projector to stay lit so it still does the lowbeam (although the highbeam would still put out onto the road). I can’t wait until I get my 2nd set of TL retrofitted headlights. I miss mine so much. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/12 "2009-02-09T10:37:08Z")
Hella makes a bi-x projector as well for Ds2 bulbs. I think it’s maximum span(width) is like 4" lense diameter of around 2.75 ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/13 "2009-02-10T04:52:15Z")
> [@150+ MPH](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/150-mph/13797/49): > > Hella makes a bi-x projector as well for Ds2 bulbs. I think it’s maximum span(width) is like 4" lens diameter of around 2.75 Yeah I heard about them I’ll look into it. I know people who retrofit the Silvia headlights stick to projectors with a 2.5" or less lens diameter. As much as I like the idea behind Bi-Xenon, I might just put HID bulbs in my stock high beam projectors. If I get the right bulbs would there still be an issue with the high beam’s projection? Obviously I don’t care about blinding people (high beams), I just want maximum light output/coverage/ability to see deer. Found this website, seems like good products. [http://store.theretrofitsource.com/product\_info.php?products\_id=62&osCsid=9f5c993434a3ffa325b16909cff9f5a0](http://store.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=62&osCsid=9f5c993434a3ffa325b16909cff9f5a0) I’m going to email them for dimentions on this Bi-Xenon kit [http://store.theretrofitsource.com/product\_info.php?cPath=24&products\_id=94&osCsid=b7088fbaa272d3a8dfcc8e7a8f15eed9](http://store.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=94&osCsid=b7088fbaa272d3a8dfcc8e7a8f15eed9) ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/14 "2009-02-10T16:15:50Z")
This is the response I got from Matt at The Retrofit Source: > ``` > Steve, > Thanks for the inquiry, I am glad to help recommend a setup to retrofit your Silvia headlights: > > ``` > _Low beam setup:_ > Acura TSX clear lens projectors > Philips 85122+ D2S bulbs > Matsushita Gen 3 OEM ballasts (oem nissan/infiniti) > low beam wire harness > $390 > _High beam setup:_ > Lexus RX-AFS low beam projectors (w/ modified cutoff shields) > Philips 85122+ D2S bulbs > Matsushita Gen 3 OEM ballasts (oem Nissan/infiniti) > low beam wire harness > $325 > Or if you want to go with a single sided Bi-xenon setup, this would probably work best for you. The Infiniti Bi-xenons are similarly sized to the TSX’s, and come with mounting holes pre-cast into the projector. > Infiniti FX-R bi-xenon projectors > Philips 85122+ D2S bulbs > Matsushita Gen 3 OEM ballasts (oem nissan/infiniti) > low beam wire harness (you’ll need to tap into your high beam wires to power the solenoids) > $410 > Any setup you choose is sure to hook you up with significantly better light output at night compared to your OEM halogen projectors, no doubt. > We accept online payments through paypal, or credit cards over the phone. > If you would like to order one of these custom kits, or if you have any other questions - let me know. I am glad to help. > Thanks Steve, take care. > ``` > Matt @ RS > > ``` Looks like I might go with the FX-R, and upgrade to the clear lenses. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/15 "2009-02-10T16:20:04Z")
Although Matt might have good projectors…STAY AWAY FROM HIS WIRING HARNESS. I got mine from him and it fell apart (fuse holder didn’t have a good connection so lights would cut in and out). I don’t know if you know electronics/wiring, but if you can do it yourself or have someone here do it for you…do it. I was driving once (this happened many times) from Syracuse and some guys in an Altima SE-R were toying with me and we stopped at a rest area to chat. The projectors were the main receivers of compliments. Well…we left together and as I’m driving, my lights went off (past midnight). I was SO embarrassed. Stay away from his harness if you have to get one. Not worth the money I paid for it. His harness (that I purchased on EBay): ![http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/9007Harness.jpg](http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/TL%20Projectors/9007Harness.jpg) Looks sturdy right? Yeah. After about a month or two the fuse holder stopped connecting properly and the lights would cut it and out. Jiggling it around would help. I eventually temp-fixed it by taping the shit out of it so it wouldn’t move AS much (it still moved inside the holder a bit) and that cut down on my blackouts. Do what you want, but I just felt I had to warn you so you don’t have to pay for a harness twice like I did. My second one (from JtzMax on [Maxima.org](http://Maxima.org)) was flawless till the day I sold it. Much sturdier than Matt’s. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bi-xenon-hids/241946/16 "2009-02-10T16:39:35Z")
Thanks, but I’ll probably request just the connectors for the ballasts as I can make the harness myself.