# Big motorcycle accident on the 290... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 7, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247 "2011-06-07T20:01:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/181 "2011-06-09T06:30:15Z")
Oppression? Stop with the hyperbole, Fry. You’re better than that. The only people something like this would single out would be dangerous riders. It’s not irrational to have different levels of licensing for different iterations of the same type of vehicle. Sort of like airplanes. ---------- Post added at 09:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 AM ---------- Boxxa, I wish something more effective could be done about cell phones, but weighing the public policy benefits of having a cell phone available to a driver outweighs the cost of not having one. I’m sure more lives are saved by a motorist being able to quickly call for help than are lost from distracted driving… For now maybe. The same analysis doesn’t work for my sport bike proposal. Good point though. Better than some of the dense, cromagnon posts by a couple others here. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/182 "2011-06-09T06:35:31Z")
This thread is an interesting view of the power of emotions; over 3000 views and 182 posts. How many people have died since this thread started. Just an observation. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/183 "2011-06-09T06:35:44Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > Oppression? Stop with the hyperbole, Fry. You’re better than that. > > The only people something like this would single out would be dangerous riders. > > It’s not irrational to have different levels of licensing for different iterations of the same type of vehicle. Sort of like airplanes. Don’t worry about word choice. Stay relavent mr law student. To fly there are different licenses for significantly different types of vehicles. Small personal craft, commercial jets, etc. Sort of like how with road vehicles we require different licenses for autos vs motorcycles vs semis. Again, we already have what you are proposing, so by singling out sportbike riders I reassert that you simply want to oppress the group you personally don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/184 "2011-06-09T06:41:21Z")
I ride a sportbike (sort of). I just don’t like the irresponsible riders on sportbikes. I’ll own that. Oh, and I just graduated. Studying for the bar now, so I guess I’m still a student for a little while longer… And as I said before: all this was thought up during my morning shit and I’m not even on board with all of it. I did want to start a conversation on the topic and bounce some ideas around. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/185 "2011-06-09T06:41:48Z")
I ride a super sport bike and I don’t think I’d have a problem with requiring a special license to operate one. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/186 "2011-06-09T06:43:18Z")
Avatar, as I said to everyone in the last 290 crash thread, you’re just being reactionary. There is no law that you can add that would have prevented this or even improved their odds of survival. Changing / adding to the law might make you feel better about “doing something” but won’t bring them back. Machines that are fast don’t kill people; people kill people. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/187 "2011-06-09T06:46:58Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > I ride a sportbike (sort of). I just don’t like the irresponsible riders on sportbikes. I’ll own that. > > Oh, and I just graduated. Studying for the bar now, so I guess I’m still a student for a little while longer… > > And as I said before: all this was thought up during my morning shit and I’m not even on board with all of it. I did want to start a conversation on the topic and bounce some ideas around. lol yeah I lost interest a while ago, but it was an interesting debate 😛 ---------- Post added at 09:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 AM ---------- > [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Machines that are fast don’t kill people; people kill people. ![http://vinteeage.com/product-images/men-s-guns-don-t-kill-people-t-shirt-vintage-t-shirt-review-palmer-cash-palmer-cash-2.jpg](http://vinteeage.com/product-images/men-s-guns-don-t-kill-people-t-shirt-vintage-t-shirt-review-palmer-cash-palmer-cash-2.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/188 "2011-06-09T06:55:57Z")
I feel that something can be done to prevent risky people from taking these things on the road. A revokable license may do that. As Geoff said, responsible serious riders will not see such a thing as a deal breaker. I would also like to see 21 as the minimum age to get a motorcycle license. I think 16 is too immature and a rider should have more road experience as a driver before they become a rider. I know it wouldn’t have helped here but it’s another point to consider. ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/189 "2011-06-09T07:03:09Z")
Right, because no one has _ever_ ridden a motorcycle on the road without a license… ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/190 "2011-06-09T07:04:57Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > Boxxa, I wish something more effective could be done about cell phones, but weighing the public policy benefits of having a cell phone available to a driver outweighs the cost of not having one. I’m sure more lives are saved by a motorist being able to quickly call for help than are lost from distracted driving… For now maybe. > > The same analysis doesn’t work for my sport bike proposal. > > Good point though. Better than some of the dense, cromagnon posts by a couple others here. I don’t think it would solve problems but just going along with that comment logic that sport bikes kill people should be banned. I can think of 100 things that people do while driving that are dangerous as hell and put others at risk. > [@Geoff](#): > > I ride a super sport bike and I don’t think I’d have a problem with requiring a special license to operate one. Licenses won’t help people who are going to ride like ass holes. Hell, I am sure that 90% of the people that pass their drivers test still don’t drive that way. I know I drive a lot different now than when I was taking my road test. Laws can’t prevent stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/191 "2011-06-09T07:08:33Z")
Just sayin’ that it wouldn’t bother me. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/192 "2011-06-09T07:13:53Z")
> [@Geoff](#): > > Just sayin’ that it wouldn’t bother me. What about when NYS charges you an extra $100 for the test, and an extra $50 a year for the license? NY doesn’t do anything for free. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/193 "2011-06-09T07:16:57Z")
I’d be okay with that, too. Obviously not everyone would obey such a regulation, but keeping the number of poor [read: retarded] super sport riders down is fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/194 "2011-06-09T07:30:35Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > I feel that something can be done to prevent risky people from taking these things on the road. A revokable license may do that. As Geoff said, responsible serious riders will not see such a thing as a deal breaker. > > I would also like to see 21 as the minimum age to get a motorcycle license. I think 16 is too immature and a rider should have more road experience as a driver before they become a rider. I know it wouldn’t have helped here but it’s another point to consider. the responsible ones aren’t the issue though… risky people are going to do risky things. there is no logic to it. trust me, i speak from experience… edit: this is along the same lines as saying outlawing guns will stop criminals from having guns. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/195 "2011-06-09T07:33:24Z")
Word. We should really outlaw mustaches. See post #187. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/196 "2011-06-09T07:38:12Z")
Sorry guys but its real simple. Either buy a sportbike and use it responsibly or pay the price for speeding whether it be a hefty fine/jail time or your life. Its pretty cut and dry on what your options are. This is exactly why sportbike riders have the reputation that they do. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/197 "2011-06-09T07:38:30Z")
^^I LOLed when I saw post #187. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/198 "2011-06-09T07:40:18Z")
> [@honda4life](#): > > Why would channel 4 post a clip from his Facebook of him doing a wheelie that’s fucking stupid and making them look bad, the media sucks fucking ass for doing that, the media likes to drag out shit way to much god they fucking suck so bad… Are you fucking serious dude? Again, your blaming people for posting a video that he put on his own facebook for the world to see. Making them look bad??? They are doing illegal things on video on public roads and posting them on their facebook. How is that dragging shit out, its the truth and they aren’t doing anything out of the ordinary. I’m sorry but some of you must be living under a rock. Come back to reality… ---
**Author:** ![AndyB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/199 "2011-06-09T07:44:01Z")
dont feel like reading 8 pages of crap, everyone ok on here? ---
**Author:** ![ItsOver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/itsover/32/5431_2.png) [@ItsOver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ItsOver)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-motorcycle-accident-on-the-290/213247/200 "2011-06-09T07:46:07Z")
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